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[edit]- Bunny (webcomic) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 11:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The best coverage I could find is a brief review on "thewebcomiclist.com", which is not an RS. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Daxam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of these references meet WP:SIGCOV and the article is mostly unreliable sources, for what material even has sources at all. Jontesta (talk) 16:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with the planet section of List of DC Universe locations in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE if no reliable sources can be found. Also, merge anyone who redirects to this page to the different List of DC Comics characters page. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of DC Universe locations#Planetary systems where it is already included. Coverage in non-primary sources is trivial, and generally is just mentioned as the origin for specific characters (i.e. "Mon-El is from Daxam"). There is no real significant coverage discussing the planet itself. Rorshacma (talk) 00:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Qward (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of these references meet WP:SIGCOV and the article is mostly unreliable sources, for what material even has sources at all. Jontesta (talk) 16:52, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with the extradimensional realms section of List of DC Universe locations in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE if no reliable sources can be found. Also if this happens, merge the Weaponers of Qward to List of teams and organizations in DC Comics and redirect the Qwardians information to List of alien races in DC Comics. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:54, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of DC Universe locations#Extradimensional realms, where it is already included. Searches are only turning up trivial mentions in non-primary sources. Rorshacma (talk) 00:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Marvel Super Hero Adventures (comic books) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Comic series fails WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 04:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Star Dudes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominating because I do not believe it fits WP:GNG. TheHatster (talk) 00:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: The nominator has not evaluated the sources already existing in the article. Toughpigs (talk) 01:35, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep seems at least two very good sources have mentions of it, which is close enough to call it notable. I have some pity on this, as it seems like a bit of internet arcana that should be noted somewhere. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I agree with @Bluethricecreamman it's a shame that there isn't better resources for these kind of articles. But it does have just enough to be notable. Dr vulpes (Talk) 07:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Johanna Nurmimaa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for sourcing issues since 2016. Not clear if the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. She appeared on a Finnish soap opera for ten years but, apparently, never won any awards. No coverage whatsoever regarding her stage roles or animated film dubbing. WP:TOOSOON, if ever. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Methos Chronicles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There doesn't appear to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Note: there's a story by Don Anderson also titled "The Methos Chronicles", but it seems to be unrelated to this project, besides sharing the same character and name. And then there's also a "Highlander zine, "The Methos Chronicles," brought to you by Carol Ann Liddiard and Sheila Marie Lane", again, seemingly unrelated. toweli (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 07:48, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Cannon (comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Barely one legit entry, if that. No mention of Cannon in WildStorm article. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:34, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Cannon (disambiguation)#Other arts and entertainment. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Since there's only one comics entry there (the semi-valid entry here), why not redirect to that article directly? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as proposed. Raymond3023 (talk) 03:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon. – sgeureka t•c 17:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as we have two different Redirect target articles suggested.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Impasse (comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An incredibly minor fictional character that, from what I can tell, only appeared in one, single issue of a comic. The one non-primary source being used in the article simply summarizes the plot of that single appearance. Searches turned up absolutely nothing else, not even brief mentions, on the character in reliable sources. Even fan wikis like the Marvel Database don't have an entry on the character. The character is as completely non-notable as a fictional character can possibly be, and is a complete failure of the WP:GNG. Rorshacma (talk) 00:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge & Redirect to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters due to lack of notability. The new article has her listed but she is one of the few characters without a description, which this merge can solve
- SJD Willoughby (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I touched upon this in another similar AFD earlier today, but this particular case is a even bigger example of why a Merge to that article is improper. A throwaway adversary that appeared in one issue of a comic is not a "supporting character" of Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Listing the character on that page as if they were is outright misleading. Rorshacma (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- That specific problem could be solved by choosing a different suitable merge target, List of Marvel Comics characters: I, or by changing the title of List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters to simpler (and less ambiguous?) List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist characters. Either way would be fine with me. Daranios (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless of where it is, a completely inconsequential character that made one single-issue appearance is too non-notable to be merged or mentioned anywhere. The very act of covering the character on Wikipedia in any capacity would create more notability for the character than actually exists. Rorshacma (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- That is a different objection from "listing him under supporting characters is misleading". The fact that the character has received its own entry in the specialized Encyclopedia of Super-Villains (although that one differs somewhat in nature to our encyclopedia here) in my view gives him enough notability, obviously not for a stand-alone article, but for a two-sentence summary in a list. And that view is not based on personal evaluation of the primary material. It's also one common way lists work. And I don't see a benefit in not having this condensed information. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete so non-notable we honestly don't even need a mention. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. BOZ (talk) 01:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. Does not seem notable in itself, but target can be improved by content based on a secondary source present here. Daranios (talk) 10:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete One-off characters aren't supporting characters and (generally) don't deserve a mention. – sgeureka t•c 12:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This doesn't deserve a mention and editors wouldn't search for "Impasse (comics)" anyway. Jontesta (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- About one person does per day. So not many, but also not noone. And WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP. Daranios (talk) 10:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I do not see it necessary for this to exist and so without encyclopedic context my decision is to eliminate. Alon9393 (talk) 05:24, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: I. --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This doesn't have enough coverage to support even a mention. But I'd accept a redirect and a brief mention for the sake of WP:CONSENSUS and WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as arguments are divided between Delete and Merge.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: For those on the fence, merge is a valid outcome despite some contrary responses above - see this and this recent AFD. BOZ (talk) 03:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability has not been demonstrated. Cortador (talk) 21:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cortador: But notability is only a critereon for keeping stand-alone articles, not for article content. So why not look for WP:Alternatives to deletion, as the notability guideline suggests:
Non-notable topics with closely related notable articles or lists are often merged into those pages.
Daranios (talk) 10:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Cortador: But notability is only a critereon for keeping stand-alone articles, not for article content. So why not look for WP:Alternatives to deletion, as the notability guideline suggests:
- Jonathan Wayshak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article and a WP:BEFORE search turns up no WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources for this comic artist -- just WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS and WP:PRIMARYSOURCES. Thus the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO; the subject also meets no criterion of WP:NARTIST. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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Keep as per the deletion of Daniel Morcombe which did get undeleted. Kellpb93ke (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC) — Kellpb93ke (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- delete Poorly referenced. --Altenmann >talk 17:16, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Jonathan Wayshak is a primary subject in the MTV News, Juxtapoz, and Fangoria, and more cited in the article. He has illustrated posters for Beetlejuice, and comics for DC, Halo, etc. Hexatekin (talk) 04:20, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are we looking at the same sources?
- The MTV source is a WP:INTERVIEW and as a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE cannot contribute to notability.
- The Juxtapoz source has a single WP:TRIVIALMENTION of Wayshak's name.
- Fangoria has a single paragraph discussing a poster Wayshak illustrated, most of it consisting of a quote from Wayshak.
- None of these are WP:SIGCOV to qualify toward notability. And it's a complete red herring to say "he has illustrated posters...and comics." That doesn't establish notability at all. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Are we looking at the same sources?
- Delete Per source analysis below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- KEEP: Wayshak is well-known in the comic book/graphic novel world. I have added reviews from a number of sources within that world, which I would suggest indicates some notability. Guinness323 (talk) 06:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- I added the sources to the assessment table above. They don't show WP:SIGCOV, except for sources that fail the test of independence or reliability. The closest they get is a claim of notability under WP:NARTIST, but that's only if you interpret a single comic book issue with two reviews as "a significant or well-known work or collective body of work." While the guideline does not describe comic books, it does generally exclude notability for individual works that are serial installments of a longer series (e.g. a TV show episode) and applying that principle to comic books would exclude this principle here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep based on sources added by Guinness323. BOZ (talk) 11:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, the save goes to Guinness323. Not a field I excel in but if the artist is well-known within it then notability becomes evident. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:19, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - the article has improved with the new sources; was there really a WP:BEFORE? Tduk (talk) 16:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Tduk, indeed there was. Read the source table. The sources added to the article do not support notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - based on the source analysis above and a BEFORE search. It is WP:TOOSOON for this artist, perhaps in a few more years there will be enough significant coverage in reliable sources that are fully independent of the subject to support an encyclopedia article. Being "well known" or having career success or "fame" is not the same as encyclopedic notability; this is not a reflection on the artist or their work, but simply a reality of WP's guidelines that have been crafted through consensus over a period of years. The article fails WP:NARTIST and WP:GNG at this time. Netherzone (talk) 02:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Source analysis appears to favor delete. The keep !voters need to remember that it is not a vote and would be advised to respond objectively and factually to source analysis.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 16:58, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - per the source analysis, there aren't any reliable, independent sources with enough WP:SIGCOV to favour an article at the moment. I agree it may be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but for the time being, the article fails WP:ARTIST and WP:GNG. DesiMoore (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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