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Anime and manga

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List of Pokémon special episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This list greatly fails INDISCRIMINATE and OR. There is no real clear inclusion criteria as to what a "special episode" is. There are bonus anime shorts and exclusive anime episodes, which appear to be the focus, but it then transcludes information from a variety of unrelated Pokémon series, such as Chronicles, Generations, and Origins. Are these really "special episodes" when they're whole series unrelated to any larger Pokémon series? What correlation do these have to any other topics within the article? This article even includes random Pokémon Go promotional shorts that have nothing to do with even these other series, and shorts shown in planetariums, again with nothing to do with anything else on this list.

Normally I would consider working out an inclusion criteria, but this list physically cannot have one because of how loosely it is using the term "special episode." It's impossible to define it, and it's including content that is largely unrelated to each other under this one umbrella term, which gives me OR vibes, as it's impossible for this exact categorization to be determined. A brief search for the term "Pokémon special episodes" also yielded quite literally nothing across all of News, Books, and Scholar, indicating this term is not widely used in any capacity outside of Wikipedia, and as a result, means that it is impossible for any external sourcing to verify what a special episode is.

I would suggest a deletion of this list, primarily because not only is this list just an OR and INDISCRIMINATE mess, but it also happens to largely consist of items that have articles or alternative redirect targets. The Pikachu shorts, for example, can redirect to their respective Pokémon movie they were shown at. Special anime episodes can go to their respective anime series, as another example. While a few things are missed out on, those things largely lack any form of significant coverage or are just non-notable as a whole, and a few of them (Such as Bidoof's Big Stand) have potential to be made into separate articles and have the information carried over there. As it stands right now, this list is impossible to verify, largely redundant due to large swathes of transcluded content, and overall just a flawed article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dokibird (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This streamer does not seem to meet WP:GNG or WP:ENT. The Siliconera sources are WP:ROUTINE, trivial, and based off of primary sources. The Japan Times and Polygon sources are based off of tweets and leverage notability from a corporate controversy. Doing a WP:BEFORE search brings up nothing else of use. Relisting this deletion discussion since the last one did not get much attention. Sparkltalk 04:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinch to Punch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This lacks WP:SIGCOV even the article knows it limited information has surfaced online. Oricon yield no result, Natalie yield no result, even the Japanese article has one source, the only thing I could find that is RS is from the Media Arts Database Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating this related articles with the same reason as above
Sobakasu Pucchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Zen-chan Tsū-chan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Keep) and improve with sources from the Japanese WP, that has a lot considering it's a 1969-1970 series! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:28, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Education, and Transportation. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • (My initial !vote above is about Zen-chan Tsū-chan). I hadn't seen this was a bundled nom when I !voted through the assisted script. Procedural keep. These series have very little in common. And it's hard to discuss and improve the 3 at the same time without long tedious explanations and comments about what precisely is relevant to each case. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC) (The nominator indicates they nominated the pages "with the same reason" but the 2nd article has >10 references to reliable newspapers on JaWP, for example.)[reply]
    I'll just seperate the 2nd one. Thanks for pointing out Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 13:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, my mention of ’the 2nd article’ is unclear: for the record, I mean Zen-chan Tsū-chan. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirects to the respective networks should also be considered.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would like to see some way to keep the content, and suggest a merge to Fuji Television. For the ones which are made by Fuji, which doesn't include Zen-chan (please, please, don't do combined nominations of disparate articles!). Not sure about Zen-chan, as like @Mushy Yank this came up as a single article for me and I hadn't given it any thought before starting this comment
    On Pinch to Punch it's unfortunate that there is so little secondary material out there although it seems even the primary material has been lost. This attests to its importance in the context of the development of Anime. This article could be perfectly happy as a stub, verified by what little information is out there, but it's hard to make a case for IAR on this.
    Keep based on the anime encyclopedia entry and the existence of multiple shorter sources in the en. article and in the jp. article. Although the encyclopedia is the only lengthy treatment found, the article subject is clearly a launching point in the history of Japanese anime. The article is verifiable and the project benefits (and has little to lose) from these stub articles. Since this is basically an IAR argument, I've struck my inconsistent comment above. I still wouldn't object to a merge as a backup. Oblivy (talk) 07:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The issue with developing these articles would be our inability to access archives which would have information about an anime series from 50 years ago. Hard to imagine that Pinch and Punch, a series with 156 episodes airing on a national TV channel, wouldn't be notable with access to the correct archives. If someone is interested, perhaps Fuji or the National Film Archive of Japan can help? I would personally either keep or merge the articles at a minimum. DCsansei (talk) 07:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is no consensus here. But I don't see any support for Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note - maximum sources are databases. and it's an enough reason to delete. Xegma(talk) 13:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. That is not true. References to Japanese newspapers of the time on the JA WP page. See my comments above, thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's multi-paragraph coverage in this book at 634, less extensive at 132, 146, and 268. Oblivy (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anime and manga categories, templates, and misc

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