Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The Transhumanist 5

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The Transhumanist

Voice your opinion (talk page) Final (65/84/16); Withdrawn by candidate at 21:04, 13 April 2008
The Transhumanist (talk · contribs) - Just checking in, to see if you trust me. 37,000+ edits, and I haven't broken Wikipedia yet. :) The Transhumanist 21:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these ~~optional~~ questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?

A: To start, whatever existing admins request I help them with.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: Wikipedia's user interface (menus, tables of contents, directories, etc.). Finding information is as important as the information itself. The structure also shows how the topics relate to each other.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Nothing major for a couple years. It's all in the previous RfAs.

~~Optional~~ Question from Ultraexactzz

4. Assume, for the sake of argument, that I am unwilling or unable to read through your previous RfAs. Briefly, why do you wish to be an administrator, and - as a follow up - what would you point to as an indication that you can be reasonably expected to use the tools in a manner that benefits the project? Put another way, Why should I support you as an admin? Thanks in advance, and best of luck to you. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 23:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A: I'm simply volunteering to help. Nothing more. Nothing less. You should support me because I'll do a good job, indicated by the good job I've done with the tools I currently have. The Transhumanist 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Optional~~ questions from Elkman:

5. What kinds of tasks do you plan to perform as an admin? (For example, closing AFDs, speedily deleting articles, blocking users, reverting vandalism, and the like. This isn't an all-inclusive list.)

A: I plan to leave that up to other admins. They know what they need help with the most, so I'll defer to their judgement. I have helped more than a handful of users become admins, and I've worked with other admins as well - they are familiar with my performance. I'm sure they will keep me busy from the start. The Transhumanist 00:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6. Could you give us some examples of non-administrative actions that you've done that would give us guidance into how you would perform such administrative tasks? (For example, voicing opinions in AFDs, tagging articles for speedy deletion, reporting vandals to WP:AIV, vandalism reverts, and the like.)

A: I've participated in AfD quite a lot. Here's a recent one: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of basic Canada topics. I also recently made a request at DRV to re-create from scratch a list that had been deleted: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 March 10 (Lists of fictional topics). I'm waiting to acquire a particular tool before I re-create the list. The Transhumanist 00:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6a. In this particular case, which tool do you see as helpful to the recreation of that article, and why? UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 04:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A:

~~Optional~~ question from Keepscases

7. In a previous RfA, I asked you the question, "Transhumanists are sometimes criticized in regards to the perception that they want to "play God". Do you think this is applicable to yourself, inside or outside of Wikipedia? Why or why not?" I am not asking you to answer that question again; you did a fine job that time. Several editors, however, took issue with my question itself. Did you?

A. No, not at all. I love philosophy and have worked extensively on philosophy articles on Wikipedia (Meaning of life, Glossary of philosophical isms, Portal:Philosophy, and others). I welcome opportunities to discuss or explain philosophy. After working on Wikipedia for a couple years that comes naturally to me now, because the encyclopedia has given me so much exposure to it and related subjects (and lots of practice writing). Why ask such questions at RfA? One reason would be to see how well the nominee articulates himself on a non-administrative subject. That is an important skill, applicable to communicating and article writing, both of which in turn are relevant skills for an admin. Communication, because being understood is essential, and article writing, because experience in it allows an admin to empathize with other editors as well as assist them in their article development efforts. Or maybe you just wanted to know if I was power hungry. :) That seems to be a common worry concerning self-noms. The Transhumanist 06:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More ~~optional~~ questions from Elkman:

8. An admin needs to have good communication skills in order to communicate with specific groups of users:

Unrepentant vandals
People who are just playing around or experimenting (e.g. some kid who adds "I <3 Margie" to an article)
Well-meaning users who want to add content, but who are unfamiliar with Wikipedia's policies (like Tulsapreservation (talk · contribs))
Disgruntled users who perceive admin bias and run to WP:AN or WP:AN/I because they feel that they've been mistreated
People who post to off-Wiki attack sites (actually, maybe admins would be better off not communicating with such users)

What kind of communication skills do you think admins need to communicate with users in these groups? How do you defuse tense situations before they go out of control and start spilling over into admin noticeboards and to off-Wiki attack sites?

Paytakaran dispute: [1], [2], [3], [4], Talk:Paytakaran/Archive 2, starting at Shall we examine the sources?, Talk:Paytakaran/Archive 3, and Talk:Paytakaran.

The Transhumanist 01:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

9. Do you view adminship as a sort of reward for being around for a long time, or for making a lot of edits?

I've often wondered if the world would be a better place if everybody could read everybody else's minds. At least you'd know my intentions, and I'd no longer be frustrated over the misguesses about what I am thinking or what my motivations are. I view buttons as tools. I view barnstars as rewards. I'm very grateful that there isn't a volunteer application ("Requests for editorship") process for being able to edit Wikipedia, because I probably wouldn't have made it through. The Transhumanist 19:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

See The Transhumanist's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

Links for The Transhumanist: The Transhumanist (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
Links for Go for it! (first account) Go for it! (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)
For the user's other accounts, see User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive menu

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/The Transhumanist before commenting.

Discussion

Um, huh? What's the purpose of this nomination? Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 21:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Transhumanist's answer to the fourth question is very good. It's about what adminship really should be, not really much of a big deal. Do we trust The Transhumanist to do fine? I do. Does the nom look crappy? You bet it does. I wish the opposers reconsider, especially the ones that say this is like a "n00b nom" or a "joke". But the points about power hunger (fifth RfA) are interesting. Maxim_(talk) 01:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You know there's something wrong when users who have had previous (and current) civility issues are granted adminship, while one flippant remark on the application page to become one of the few who are tasked with guarding the wikipedia is slaughtered for his incivility. There are other reasons to oppose, but I don't feel that this should be one of them, which is why this is a comment, rather than a !vote. --Izno (talk) 07:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes well people who are agressive on thier RFA generally get slaughtered. He might be an admin sometime though, if he waits about 8-16 months and puts more effort into his nom.--Phoenix -wiki 15:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recognize TT as a fabulous contributor. However, in my opinion, he belongs to the group of editors that are valuable yet don't "have the proper temperament to be admins" (see WP:ANOT#ENTITLEMENT) OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 06:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support

Support, though that's a crap nom, if you have to do it again make it better, good user though, and very helpful.--Phoenix -wiki 21:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Although I know that The Transhumanist is an excellent, dilligent user, 5 RfAs makes me wary. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support MBisanz ^talk 21:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support — the nom's a little short, but I was looking at your talk page a minute ago, wondering "is he an admin now"? I think you can be trusted :-). paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)^{a door?} 22:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - per nom and answers, fabulous editor, highly trustworthy. 37,000 edits was the deal breaker for me :) Majorly (talk) 22:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why yes, yes of course. Will be a net-benefit for sure. Dorftrottel (criticise) 22:12, April 8, 2008
As before: He is not going to misuse the tools, everything else is negligible. Dorftrottel (vandalise) 00:18, April 9, 2008
Support - Ok, the answers aren't all that descriptive, but, it boils down to trust in the end. I asked myself, "do I trust this candidate?", and invariably the answer was "yes". The user boosts morale constantly, is very prolific (even though a lot of the contributions use scripts and what not) and has the requisite experience. Their attitude is positively winsome, which is something that is very important to me in an administrator. If we can have rough around the edges, we can have a little levity. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 22:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, although I would suggest that TT suspend his RfA and write out a proper nomination statement. Anthøny 22:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I think you'd be a good candidate, despite your immature approach to this and your previous RFAs. I understand that you're frustrated with the process, and you even have a right to be, but you're smart enough to know you're shooting yourself in the foot here. If instead of these two immature nominations you had just waited, you'd probably be passing now. Since I think you'd be a good administrator, I think it's a shame that it's been approached this way. --JayHenry (talk) 23:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Withdrawn largely because of the behavior here. Hard to believe the candidate will be good at respecting other community norms, when he's failing wildly to do so here. --JayHenry (talk) 18:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. TT is one of the more hardworking editors around. A no-nonsense editor. Knows policy. Knows wikipedia. Knows how to irritate people :-) TT is the one editor whom I truly was surprised to discover wasn't an admin. Good luck. 3 + 2 is the charm. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 23:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This user never has given up on his dream- to be an Administrator. — ComputerGuy890100^{Talk to me}_{What I've done to help Wikipedia} 23:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Been around a while, doesn't seem to be a troublemaker. Why not? --Carnildo (talk) 23:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
support! Being an admin is serious business, and you seem like a serious guy who can seriously be serious about his business. Seriously. - TheDaveRoss (talk) 23:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Adminship is no big deal. Transhumanist is experienced. Spencer^T♦^C 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. He has shown himself to be helpful and encouraging and polite. Has been around a long while and always engages politely with people. The evidence is that he is trustworthy. Yes the application form hasn't presented the candidate in the best light, but looking at the genuine evidence of how much The Transhumanist is willing to give to the project and to others on the project I can only feel that he will make good use of the tools. SilkTork *^YES! 00:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC) - Withdrawn Support. The response to Kurt was poor judgement at a time of particular scrutiny. SilkTork *^YES! 17:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support again as with his 3rd RfA. Bearian (talk) 00:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhat weak support. I have continually supported you in your requests for adminship, but the last two that have gone through have been puzzlingly odd. If you would have simply not had either of these, I believe that the community would have promoted you before now. My suggestion is to take a date ~5 months in the future and not submit another RFA until then or later. Your over-eagerness and strange last two RFAs (including this one) have created mistrust where there should have been none. Discipline yourself and prove to the community that they should have given you the tools a long time ago. With regards, Malinaccier (talk) 00:34, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? - Competent and trustworthy, no reason to oppose. Xdenizen (talk) 00:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Will make a good admin despite his refusal to follow RfA etiquette. Epbr123 (talk) 01:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. More reasonable than not in my experience with him in AfDs and he even made my list of nice Wikipedians. Plus, he's never been blocked and has over 30,000 edits. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 01:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. I don't see a single reason to oppose. If this was his first RfA, he'd pass almost unanimously. Whether or not there's been others is irrelevant to me. He's willing to help out, he's proven his trustworthiness and technical skills, why the hell not? Give the man a darn mop already. Tan | 39 01:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Substance over presentation. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, trustworthy and skilled user. FusionMix 02:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Agreed with Espresso Addict. ṜέđṃάяķvίʘĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line} 03:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is time to give him the mop. A dedicated user! --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 03:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. The intro was a little bit funny and weird Fattyjwoods ^{(Push my button)} 03:52, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - still don't think he'd go wrong with the tools. Shell ^babelfish 04:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:DEAL. I don't disagree with the comments that this nom could have been much better, but neither do I have any doubts about your trustworthiness as a user and potential admin. And there's nothing wrong with wanting to be an admin--after all, we'd run out of admins pretty soon if nobody wanted to step up to the plate. --jonny-m t 07:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Give him a chance. Nick mallory (talk) 09:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I supported his previous RfA, and I support this one. I don't care about the nomination statement being crap. This is not an election campaign for President of the United States, for God's sake. It is a request for administrator status on a website, a position which I trust The Transhumanist to fulfil adequately. Walton^One 09:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support - the opposes don't make much sense to me and since this is his fifth RfA, I believe he deserves a fair-go now atleast, if we oppose people on how long they wait for their next RfA, we are just telling them (not directly) that its better if you created a new account an go for an RfA after 3 months with that account and you will have a higher chance of passing that RfA than with this user account, we don't want that do we ? I have known TTH too long not to trust him and his judgement and if he hadn't made those few errors pointed out below, then he would have been a bad admin since no one is perfect, there is a saying "If you understand what you're doing, you're not learning anything" and by now the TTH has learnt his lesson, Give this Bloke a chance, you won't be disappointed, I assure you...--Comet styles 09:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The more admins we have on wikipedia the better, of course as long as they respect their position in the community and do whats asked of them. I was waiting and waiting and waiting for a vandal to be blocked and it took 10 minutes! I guess admins do have to get off the computer once in a while. Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 10:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Although 5 RfAs in 10 months is ill-conceived, TT replies to MBK004 (currently oppose #14) leave me convinced that this user can be trusted with the tools. Rami R 11:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Net positive Dloh cierekim 11:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think The Transhumanist has done a fine job for Wikipedia. I trust him. Good luck. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Agreed that adminship for this candidate would be a net positive for the encyclopaedia and he's very unlikely to abuse tools (especially after 5 RfAs, I think someone in that situation would be especially aware of community scrutiny of his actions). However while I respect the opposers I disagree with many of the rationales presented. Orderinchaos 13:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support The Transhumanist has been a trusted user here for a very long time. Without doubt, has shown the dedication, perseverance, and commitment to this site that we look for when promoting admins. If users want to oppose over how he has presented this particular RfA, despite the fact that we know him exceedingly well from his previous four, that is their prerogative; however, it would be denying a worthy editor tools that would allow him to contribute in more positive ways. I am very confused as to why we are so strongly adhering to this vague notion of RfA "etiquette." This is exactly why RfA is so broken; we complain about the process, then complain some more when someone doesn't adhere to it properly. I would strongly encourage TT to apologize to Kurt Weber for his comments, though. GlassCobra 14:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support In two words, I agree with Dlohcierekim and Orderinchaos: "net positive". And although he could have had a little more tact here, I agree with GlassCobra that an apology would suffice. нмŵוτн τ 14:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support and add that some of the opposes are the lamest reasons for opposing I've ever seen. Jeez, the laziness of some people is astounding... it's not like the questions have any worth anyway, as they read pretty much the same in almost every RfA. A review of his past contributions are likely to give a much more accurate picture of the candidate. Jeez, just 'cause he's not drivelling on about how he'll be active at AIV, AFD, MFD, TFD, IFD, ANI, AN, RFR, CSD, PROD all simultaneously whilst fighting off the trolls with his other hand is no reason to deny him the tools. -- Naerii 14:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Lame" and "lazy" are not words I would use to describe the opposition, especially considering the vast majority of opposers are administrators or higher. Besides, most of the opposition is in response to what many view as power hunger through repeated RfAs. tl;dr: Let's respect other's opinions on RfA, whether they oppose or support. — scetoaux (T|C) 19:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The fresh approach that Wikipedia needs. The Transhumanist has been painfully honest throughout this RfA, and is a good editor that needs the tools. EJF (talk) 15:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support switched from oppose due to answer of Q4. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 15:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Q4. jj137 (talk) 16:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support I have no doubts about your trustworthiness or ability to be an admin. However. I certainly hear what some opposes are saying about the general tone you've set in your answers above and to opinions here. While you may be de-sensitized to the RfA process by this 5th one, it is still a process to help editors decide on your ability to be an admin. To completely minimize your answers above on grounds that it has all been said in your previous RfAs and use sarcasm to respond to some opposes is rather insulting. I completely understand the "meatgrinder" aspects of RfA; I've been through it. It is a stressful and difficult process. Flawed it may be but it is still the process the community has for making this decision. Merely referring people to your previous RfAs gives the impression you haven't been changed at all from the past requests, that the opinions expressed in those RfAs don't really matter to you, that you view this as a kind of community affirmation of what you already know about yourself: You deserve and have earned the right to be an admin. There's a flippancy in your attitude that is disturbing. My opinions here may seem overly critical for a straight support but I really hope you'll heed my words. Pigman☿ 18:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Y/N? Y No muss, no fuss. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Despite lack of formality in starting this RFA, I don't particularly distrust this contributor, and ultimately I don't think he'll back a bad administrator - I actually think he'll do quite well. Valtoras (talk) 21:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because I love the answer to question 4. Do you direct films? Also, I must say that this was a crap nom (as said by many, many in the "oppose" section) and as such I do not expect it to succeed. However, I have full confidence in him, despite his abysmal sense of humour... weburiedoursecrets inthegarden 22:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, if anything, on the grounds that I think you're okay, and this isn't the Westminster Dog Show; RFA shouldn't have to be about jumping through hoops like a damn poodle. Mike H. Fierce! 22:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support What I said two RFA's ago: The mop isn't that big of a deal, and this user has proven himself time and time again to be a worthy Wikipedian who is responsible enough to handle the tools. --Shark face 217 23:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - no big deal. No reason to believe this user would abuse the tools. Every reason to think they would use the tools constructively. Good answer to question 4. Carcharoth (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support – You can definitely be trusted. —Animum (talk) 00:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This user can be trusted. To me past Rfa's are an irrelevant factor. I can tell that this user will be a fine admin. Mww113 (talk) (Report a mistake!) 01:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support While this user and myself have very different views on some aspects of Wikipedia, in the end I don't think that's what Adminship is about. It's about if we can trust the nominee to act in good faith for the benefit of the project, and this user has good faith coming out his ears. Beeblbrox (talk) 05:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I've done a lot of thinking over this. Although TT has been rather rash in this nomination, and the 5 failed RfA's in the recent months really concern me, after looking at his contributions and other users' comments on him, I am led to believe that I can trust this user with the tools. Singu larity 06:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wonderful editor with many great contributions. Would surely use the tools well. --₪Ryan Taylor₪^talk 06:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - this RfA is, put simply, crap. Really bad. But I've seen work by this user, and I declare myself a fan. I know this editor is brilliant. Lra drama 08:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - iMatthew 20 08 10:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support with some difficulty. Your work in the project is excellent, and I am sure you will not abuse the tools. Your comments within the oppose section would have turned me off had I not taken the trouble to look through your work. If this RfA fails, may I most seriously suggest that you wait for a few months, and then apply again in a more serious vein? --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 12:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After some more thought, The Transhumanist isn't likely to abuse the tools, and I don't think we'll see a repeat of Ibaranoff24's RfA (which I raised in the last RfA, and has been mentioned below). I don't think this nomination is a "joke" either. Acalamari 15:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This user really wants to make a difference. Who are we to stop him? In response to the people opposing The Transhumanist based off of his "Get a life" joke, he has been admonished enough. Perhaps we should whack him with a wet trout and move on...? Cheers, Glacier Wolf 17:12, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support reliable user. Sexy Sea Shark 17:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Wikipedia:NOBIGDEAL. Long time contributer, supports the wikipedia mission, not a whacko, what's the big deal?--RegentsPark (talk) 20:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Well after 4 trys im sure he will be a great admin.--Pookeo9 (talk) 22:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - User is a refreshing break from the "ideal" modern RFA candidate. We need people who think differently, not an endless clone army of vandalfighters. Mr. IP (talk) 23:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support This user is a breath of fresh air. So what if it noms himself? Who knowns better that they are ready, than they who are the party who is ready? I'm sure that after 4 RfAs, he got sick of the brown-nosing... hense the lighthearted feel. Re: his contributions? Just fine in my book. Queerbubbles | Leave me Some Love 16:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Support RFAs are hard. :( ≈ MindstormsKid 17:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Seems trustworthy. --Charitwo ^talk 04:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Traditional unionist (talk) 10:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

From the nomination and lack of answers to the (technically optional, but in reality mandatory) questions lead me to believe that this is either a joke or some sort of editor review that will garner more attention than a regular one. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 21:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a bit of irony though. You are making the answers mandatory, by demanding them. Also, you are making this into an editor review. What exactly are you opposing over? Do you think TTH is likely to inadvertently or intentionally misuse the tools? If so, how do you arrive at that conclusion? Any hint would be welcome. Dorftrottel (talk) 13:46, April 9, 2008

I may be making the questions mandatory, but why is that a bad thing in your opinion? Also, how am I making this an editor review? I, in fact, said that by the lack of effort this candidate put in, that they except people to review their contributions and give feedback without seriously voting by their opinion, and in my opinion this is misuse of the already-broken RfA system. If they abuse this, why won't they abuse the tools? However, I'm striking and switching to support per answer to Q4. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 15:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are taking the piss aren't you? Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:45, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expand on that please? Lra drama 08:25, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Its evident what I mean from the context.. Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No it is not, not to me anyway. WP is for a global audience, even way back here behind the scenes... Beeblbrox (talk) 16:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That may be so, but it is far from useful feedback for The Transhumanist is it?Going through an RfA is not a relaxful process (unless of course, you are doing really well), so show a little more respect please. A comment like that will only result in things getting out of hand. Lra drama 18:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spartaz asked a valid question. "Taking the piss" means "joking around". Am I joking around? No, and yes. I don't consider my request for adminship a joke. That being said, I'm not against a little levity here and there, even in RfAs. Have you heard the one about... The Transhumanist 20:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know what taking the piss means. Hence my comment. I didn't think you would appreciate your RfA being referred to in such a way, that is all. Lra drama 21:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. (I had to look it up). And yes, I don't appreciate what he said (that is, how he said it). Thank you for standing up for me. If you ever need help with anything, please feel free to ask. The Transhumanist 22:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This user apparently wants to be an admin very badly, has not sufficiently articulated the reasons for this desire (which is important, given that his initial reasons for wanting the tools were evidently not good ones), and is piling on RFA after RFA without apparently taking previous opposes to heart (and without putting much apparent effort into the self-noms). At this point, I would suggest that he go a year or so without applying for adminship, ponder why he wants the tools and, if he considers these reasons good, come back then. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 21:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My primary reason for wanting the tools is that "they are there". It's why Mount Everest was climbed. And it's why I started editing Wikipedia in the first place: because there's an edit button. I love clicking on it. I won't abuse the admin tools, and I'll make good use of them. And I'll confer with other admins before trying anything out of the ordinary with the tools. And as with the very powerful WP:AWB tool, the users of which who are expected to clean up any messes they create, I will certainly be on hand to do so should I make any mistakes with the admin buttons. The Transhumanist 20:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The concerns rasied in Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The Transhumanist 4 (which, sadly, I opposed as well) have not been addressed, and this RfA does not alleviate those concerns. I agree that The Transhumanist should wait at least 6 months (but preferably 9-12 months) before requesting adminship again. Acalamari 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure anymore: good points have been made on both sides. Acalamari 21:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What Spartaz said. – Steel 22:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Strong Oppose and strangely, I'm the first non-admin to do so. I feel that this user, although they have a positive effect on Wikipedia, is just a little too eager to become an admin, among other concerns. — scetoaux (T|C) 22:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I feel that in addition to the above, the candidate's behavior would be simply unacceptable for an administrator. — scetoaux (T|C) 20:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - 5th RfA in 10 months and 6th within 14 months, and a self-nomination at that. The nomination shows complete contempt for the community, giving those who spend their free time absolutely no information on which to make a decision. Useful advice handed down by other experienced users at previous requests for adminship has been completely disregarded which instantly makes me uncomfortable - if they can't follow advice about something that won't break Wikipedia, what are they going to do with advice that will break Wikipedia. Finally, and I hate to say this, but I get the feeling that this is nothing but a sledgehammer attack to gain adminship, the normal route of waiting, earning trust, submitting an RfA sensibly and filling in the request properly has been completely circumvented and it's not a battle between the user and the community to try and gain adminship, and I'm really not comfortable with that. I'll be extremly annoyed if I see this user here again within the next 6 months and probably within the next 12 months. Nick (talk) 22:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But I have been trying to give you the information upon which to base a decision, in my replies. You have stated that useful advice has been completely disregarded, even though I carefully consider the advice given, both in my contributions, and in my replies. Concerning the waiting period between RfAs, well, I put in a lot more hours than the typical user. Two months for me is more like six months for most other users. Rather than looking at what I have done with my time, and how I use it to benefit the project and people in the project, you prefer to look at the calendar. Do you want automatons or independent thinkers? Do you want someone who will back down from pressure or POV pushers? No. Place me on the front lines. If I do something wrong with the tools, I'll be blocked. I pose no danger to the project. The Transhumanist 22:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, sorry. You're a good user, but for someone who's had 4 RfAs already and so often dwells into the responsibilities of admins, you really could've presented an RfA that wouldn't look so much like a newbie's. Also, you fail to mention how have you improved since your last RfA and how have you addressed the unequivocal opposition expressed thereby. Hús ö nd 22:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RfA isn't a resume. It's a discussion page. And I'm participating in this discussion to the best of my ability. The Transhumanist 22:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I keep seeing you talk about the RFA process this way. On one hand I agree with you, you're absolutely right, it's not a resume. However, it is an application of sorts. The RFA is a chance for you to showcase your contributions to Wikipedia and to show everyone how you would/could make a great admin. No, being an admin isn't a big deal. Neither is working at McDonald's, but I doubt you'd get hired with the same mindset. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 14:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, have you seen the people who work at McDonalds? Rami R 14:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Users' contributions are showcased all over the place. Wikipedia keeps a record of everything, and provides rather powerful tools for viewing those records, including by specific namespace (talk page contribs are often very revealing). Also, convenient links are provided in all RfAs to assist in viewing those records. User pages very often summarize users' contributions further. The Transhumanist 20:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, for a clear lack of common sense. I hope you realize that people usually take time to review candidates, and your nomination, as it is currently written, is obviously not going to convince anyone who's opposed in your four previous rfas. Therefore you're just wasting everyone's time in order to whore for attention. Please consider withdrawing this nom. - Bobet 22:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If they actually review me, that is, my actual performance between RfAs, then there is no need for me to convince them of anything. That is exactly the point we differ on - forcing noms through unnecessary hoop-jumping at RfA - and it is my main contention with the RfA process. My nickname for RfA is "The Meatgrinder". As a coach I encountered students' dread of The Meatgrinder pretty often. Some even decided adminship wasn't worth it because of it. But at least the process doesn't stress me out like it used to. I've been desensitized. That may actually be useful if I ever become an admin. :) The Transhumanist 11:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That argument would carry a lot more clout if you hadn't done the exact same thing 2 months ago, and if this wasn't your fifth attempt at this. It's great that you're not stressed by the process, but it really isn't necessary to make a bimonthly status report here confirming that, and only that. To me, it just shows a desperate need to draw attention to yourself, which in my opinion is not a good quality in an admin. - Bobet 14:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But I've contributed thousands of edits and hundreds of hours to the project since my last RfA, and I believed that others would be interested in taking another look. (It appears I was not incorrect). My approach in RfA itself is what it is because the first step in fixing a broken social system is intolerance by those being processed or abused by it - at the time and place the abuse is taking place. RfA is broken. The primary problem seems to be that rules are being created and enforced via oppose votes. For example, Wikipedia allows non-admins to be admin coaches - and specifically states that in the admin coaching department. But some participants at RfA, who believed non-admins shouldn't be admin coaches, used their votes at RfA in an attempt to force their will counter to Wikipedia's normal processes, punishing a nominee for engaging in an official (allowed) procedure. The essence was "disregard that rule of Wikipedia, or else we will oppose you at RfA." That is an abuse of the RfA system. Yet, there was no indication that those votes were discounted (not counted). I believe that this flaw in the system should be fixed. Hopefully others will step forward to express their dissatisfaction with this system. There are many votes in this RfA similar to the example I provided, but which mostly have to do with the RfA process itself - causing this RfA to implode. For example, I wasn't going to answer the optional questions, and didn't at first, but participants require it. The RfA instructions say one thing, and the participants enforce another. Not good. I'm addressing these instances where they need to be addressed, right here in the oppose section where they are taking place - which is exactly what I'll be expected to do as an admin (fighting vandalism wherever it occurs, etc). This is a discussion forum after all, and discussing the merits of the reasons being posted is entirely on-topic. The Transhumanist 20:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think your contributions have been extremely helpful to wikipedia, no less. However, I do not see why you couldn't spend just a few minutes making this RFA seem less like a "let's see if this works" one, and more like a "I've improved since my previous RFAs, I think I'm worthy of your trust" one. Also, your answers to the question lead me to think that you don't need the tools (you say you won't expand the RFA, because you prefer to spend time improving wikipedia); you don't need to be an admin to keep doing what you've done, and, looking at your previous records, you seem to prefer not to change. In short, judging by your answers to the questions, and to the concerns of users (not just on this RFA), I think you don't really care much about the outcome. · AndonicO ^Hail! 23:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
–Pomte 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Is this a joke? Edit count and "not breaking anything" is not exactly a reason for me to feel safe handing over the mop. This strangely feels like a mirror of your previous RfA. Has nothing been improved? Tiptoety ^talk 23:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The candidate's tendency to argue and rebut nearly every opinion offered by other editors in discussions, including the five (so far) Rfas, is a strong factor in my opposition. — Athaenara ✉ 23:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK for noms to address concerns above in the nomination-, question-, and comments-section, but try to address concerns down here, and you get opposed for arguing and rebutting. It doesn't seem to matter if the points noms make are valid or not. And that's just wrong. Communicating itself is punished. But this is a discussion page. Noms should be able to discuss the points brought up about them in their RfAs without fear of being opposed simply for communicating. I'm not going to back down from problems I encounter out of fear of rejection or intimidation. I will address the problems, and try to find solutions. And this quirk of RfA is a problem. RfA is broken. This situation is exacerbated by a lack of guidance pointing it out - it's not in the instructions. Again and again I've seen noms approach RfA assuming it is a discussion page like any other, only to get caught by surprise and blasted for communicating as they normally would on any other discussion page. Over formatting (over where on the page noms can safely post their opinions and information about themselves). With respect to my own RfA, my approach is to speak as honestly and reasonably about the points as I can, applying logic to the best of my ability to arrive at sensible conclusions. With respect to future nominees, I believe they should be better informed before taking the plunge. I plan to look into this. The Transhumanist 04:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - ~~Um, nothing has been done to address previous opposition from the 4 prior RfAs,~~ The answers to the questions and the nom would lead me to think that the user is a newbie if I didn't know better. I agree with Nick above, and also question the "power hungry" remark from the 4th RfA (I know why you made it, but that was improper), and also the blatant disregard to RfA etiquette (The nom and answers to the questions are woefully inadequate). ~~I cannot in good conscious support this user in any RfA for at least a year because of the frequency of these RfAs,~~ I recommend that you wait at least six months and until someone other than yourself offers to nominates you. ~~-MBK₀₀₄ 23:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)~~-MBK₀₀₄ 01:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I haven't repeated the things opposed to (referring to non-RfA-related opposes). I resigned as admin coach for all of my nine students because someone complained at RfA about my being an admin coach, even though the instructions for that department specifically states that non-admins can be admin coaches. So that oppose has been addressed. I stopped being bureaucratic, but the casual approach is appreciated far less (see the nom, above). :) But I don't get many complaints outside of RfA, so it's not clear what the opposer meant by "too formal and bureaucratic". The opposer dodged all queries, on and off of RfA, so I've therefore striven to maintain a balance, and have worked more in article space. So that oppose has been addressed. The vast majority of the opposes at my RfAs have to do with the RfAs themselves. People seem to forget they are here at RfA to judge people's performance. I don't believe judging RfA presentation and formatting has anything to do with performance in the encyclopedia or in the community. But it appears that's just me. I have simply volunteered to help out as an admin. If you don't want to accept my offer, that's your privelege. I'll continue to offer again in the future. The Transhumanist 01:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding. I'll take a closer look and if I see fit, revise my !vote/prose accordingly. Until then, this oppose stands. -MBK₀₀₄ 01:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have struck some remarks and added more relevant ones. Unfortunately my oppose still stands. -MBK₀₀₄ 01:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You resigned as admin coach just to address a complaint at RfA? Is becoming an admin yourself more important than helping others become admin?

People respect and appreciate your performance. Performance/trust with admin tools does not follow from performance/trust with list article work unless the candidate displays the associated character traits. Of course RfA presentation has to do with performance in the community; RfA is a part of the community. Your presentation here isn't isolated from the rest of your edits.

There are better ways to be non-bureaucratic. You don't need to move from one extreme to another.

Repeatedly requesting adminship despite a clear lack of consensus over the foreseeable future is not a way to help, wastes the community's time, and shows poor judgment. –Pomte 04:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I resigned as admin coach because I could do a better job training admins if I had access to the tools. The fact that I was an admin coach without being an admin was pissing off admins, and created a catch 22 situation with respect to acquiring the tools. I felt it was worth the delay in training others to wait until I could give them my best. In the meantime, I've returned to working on Wikipedia's navigation aids, to help people find what they are looking for (and find what they didn't know they needed because they simply didn't know it existed). Browsing support.

I believe RfA presentation has very little to do with performance in the community. The evidence is my performance in the community. While RfA is part of the community, it isn't representative of the rest of Wikipedia because while its function is to ascertain performance in Wikipedia, it focuses primarily upon the form of the RfA itself, defeating its own purpose.

I believe RfA is the ideal place to be non-bureaucratic, as it takes "no big deal" to heart.

Whether this is a waste of time depends on what ultimately comes out of it. With this much exposure to the process, I think I may have spotted what is wrong with it. That's a potential first step in fixing it. By the way, the consensus was that Socrates drink hemlock tea, and he did. But I'm not Socrates. :) The Transhumanist 09:36, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Upgraded to strong oppose in light of the responses to Kurt's oppose below and others. -MBK₀₀₄ 03:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This looks like some sort of joke and/or editor review. Also, his reasoning in his previous RFA, "Because I desperately hunger for power, I nominate myself for adminship..." makes me increadibly warry. Spinach Dip 00:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was in response to a spammer who summarily opposed all self-noms "on the grounds that it shows inherent hunger for power" or something similar. I simply beat him to the punch. A couple people got it. :) The Transhumanist 01:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You consider Kurt a spammer? Tiptoety ^talk 02:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose- Per my comments under Neutral. Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 01:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose You seem a little too eager for the mop, IMHO. Plus this RfA isn't very well thought out, as far as the introduction, and this one is too soon after your last one. ArcAngel (talk) 01:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Eagerness = bad intentions. Eagerness is evil." I respectfully disagree. Eagerness is energy. Eagerness is willingness to help. It's a driving force behind Wikipedia's success. The Transhumanist 04:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Nick. --Agüeybaná 01:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per Nick and AndonicO. Daniel (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant Oppose The user, while definitely a good contributor, has already had four admin attempts to date and gives minimal information in his answers to questions for us to make a decision on. I wish that I could vote support, but unfortunately, I can't. =( --Liempt (talk) 02:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Bobet. At this point, the candidate's impaired sense of timing, lack of tact, and severe impatience do rise to the level where it can be said that he seems to lack common sense. He should wait at least one year before reapplication here, in light of his inability to heed prior requests that he wait six months. Xoloz (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Pretty much know what you do on Wikipedia, so let's start with some praises. I like how you finally overhaul the list of basic topics. Ok, that's it for praises, now to the opposing reason. In your last RfA, your statement said "Because I desperately hunger for power, I nominate myself for adminship. The Transhumanist 12:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)". I think that is honest, but we don't need power-hungry admins. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 02:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fairly certain that it wasn't an honest declaration about the candidate, but a reference to a certain user that opposes all self-nominations at RfA as evidence of "power hunger". Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 03:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See #15 above. –Pomte 04:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose — I view self-noms as prima facie evidence of power hunger. Also, this is his fifth self-nom in about 15 months. He wants it, obviously. That's a bad thing. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 03:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As if on cue... Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt, why don't you get a wife? Dorftrottel (ask) 03:39, April 9, 2008

~~Or a life? :)~~ The Transhumanist 04:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shame on all three of you. Especially you, Transhumanist, not abiding by etiquette in your own RfA. Keegan^talk 06:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good grief. :) The Transhumanist 07:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TTH, I wrote "wife" as a pun on both the common saying and because of the connotations my own dirty mind reads into "He wants it, obviously. That's a bad thing." I specifically did not tell him to "get a life", because that's unfriendly as hell. Dorftrottel (harass) 13:39, April 9, 2008

Sorry about the poke. The Transhumanist 15:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Bobet and Xoloz sum it up well for me. Pete.Hurd (talk) 03:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose per Kurt. Yes, I never thought I would EVER agree with him on an RfA, but in this case I think he's right. the way he's going about wanting it is troubling. There's a fine line between really wanting to help the project, and wanting the power. Based on previous RfAs and this one, The Transhumanist is clearly in the latter category. Hasn't done anything that's impressed me in quite a few months as well. Wizardman 04:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changed oppose to strong based on recent events and responses. Wizardman 16:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Just no. Has stated they're "power hungry" (which even if it is a joke, sucks). The comment to Kurt is just further junk that doesn't have to be uttered. Jmlk 1 7 05:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But it rhymes! The Transhumanist 05:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TH, why give people just the ammunition they need? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. You don't seem to take this process seriously enough to give any kind of serious well thought answers. The contents of the previous RFAs also give me reason to doubt your suitability for adminship. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 06:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are right, I don't take this process very seriously. Because this section down here is for the most part circumspection on this RfA. You aren't looking beyond this page. That's not a very effective way to select admins. I can't be the one who proves to you through testimony that I'm trustworthy - logically you shouldn't take a nom's word about his own trustworthiness. You need to get that information elsewhere. Such as actually looking at what the nom has done and how he has interacted with others in the encyclopedia and the Wikipedia community - it's all recorded. But don't over exert yourself on my account. The Transhumanist 08:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I looked over 5 failed RFAs. That was enough. I also looked again over this one, where you have been hassling and arguing with every oppose. My point still stands, therefore. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 21:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The comment to Kurt? Inappropriate. I'm a sarcastic person, I often quip at others expense. Online is a different environment; without body language snap replies are like venom. Keegan^talk 06:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I view get a life jokes as...oh, no, I'm not gonna go that far. But you know what I mean. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 07:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, as an indication that I have no life. Well, that happens to be true. :) The Transhumanist 08:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have one either, but I find that isn't often the best way to get one's point across. (Oh, yeah, and it was actually gonna start with primate and end with face...or something like that...) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A simply illuminating nom... you've been on Wikipedia for a few years now; at least put some effort into the nom and make it look presentable. A person who's been on Wikipedia for an hour can do better than this. —Dark ^talk 07:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why? It's no big deal. It's just a request. The Transhumanist 07:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing's changed. ~ Riana ⁂ 09:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I am all for easy banter and light-hearted disagreements between editors. However, both Dorftrottel and The Transhumanist crossed the line on Civilty per your responses to Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) oppose. Shame on you both. ShoesssS ^Talk 10:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As the opposes have mounted in this RFA your responses have become ever more flippant. The response to Kurt was simply out of line. I really like your work, I really do, but this rush for the tools combined with a "not that bothered" attitude is just wrong. Now, you argue above that it's no big deal and just a request. That's true. But it's a request for tools that can really impact on other editors and our readership if used poorly. And I can only interpret the lackluster effort in this request, coupled with increasingly snakry comments, as someone who wouldn't care that much if they did use them poorly. For that reason I must oppose. Pedro : Chat 10:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well that's convenient, and easy. Saves you the trouble of any in-depth analysis of contribs. And I'm not in a rush for the tools. I'm just taking an approach that you don't agree with. It's been well over a year already, and I don't care how much longer it takes. The quip was a jest - I poked the same fun at myself. You can make as much out of it as you like. As for tool abuse, I don't abuse tools. For example, I use AWB extensively. You can do some pretty extensive damage with it. Once. And then you'll be shut down. The same thing applies to admin tools. I don't abuse AWB, and there's no danger of my abusing admin tools. I care about Wikipedia, and I care about you guys. But I consider the RfA process to be absurd. The Transhumanist 10:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
With respect TH, I think I'm reasonably noted round RFA for doing an in-depth anaylsis. And I did that for your contributions at RFA 3 in December. I don't find any value in polughing through what are no doubt another 10,000 great contributions when I have all the evidence I need laid out in your nomination statement, answers to the standard questions, and reponses to opposers. Look, I know you're a great editor. I know you are 100% commited to Wikipedia. And I know that you feel you would be an even greater benefit with admin buttons. But you need to demonstrate a cool head, a calm disposition and simply less haste. I'm sorry, I really am, but I genuinely feel that at this time you cannot demonstrate, to me, that you will not use the buttons hastily and without thought to the repercussions if they are mis-applied. This isn't about assuming you won't abuse the intentionally - you won't I'm certain. But would you misuse them un-intentionally? I fear possibly so, and that, at the end of the day, is why I am opposing. Pedro : Chat 11:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically less haste in volunteering for adminship. What would that prove? Not a thing. You interpret my approach as haste. I see it as perseverance - which displays patience (and faith that you'll get to know me eventually). The same perseverance I've applied on the tedious lists of basic topics project, which I've been patiently plugging away at for over 2 years - as fast as I can. That's not haste, it's speed. And most of the problems that admins deal with require rapid response - which is a good approach once you know what you're doing. While you are on the learning curve, it makes sense to go slower. The main context in which patience needs to be applied by admins is in how they deal with problem users, frustrated users, or with users locked in conflict. I've defused my fair share of such situations, and though I respond quickly, I am patient with those involved and treat them with tolerance, and with an empathy learned from having gone through some of the same problems myself. But admins also need to be firm and not shy away from conflict. Wikipedia needs them to stand their ground.

Disagreeing to posts here, or even replying to opposes at all, has become taboo. I think it's dumb. It goes to formatting. I find it much easier to express my views in a dynamic discussion than in a static statement about myself - the format I'm being chastised for not presenting. If that's being hotheaded or overly excited, then there's something wrong with your definitions. This is a relatively civil and calm discussion. The Transhumanist 13:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I won't dispute that one persons haste is anothers perserverance. But I do disagree that replying to opposes is taboo - many opposes get significant comentary from both the candidate and other editors on many RFA's. The salient point is, of course, that in a civil conversation you don't tell people to "get a life". Emoticons or the fact it rhymes are irrelevant. It's just rude. I've tried to be constructive in my oppose, but you really need to understand one thing quite clearly TH - you may think that the RfA process is so broken that scrappy answers, weak nomination statements and having a jab at opposers is a method of fixing it. Unfortunately the weight of opposition here indicates that a lot of editors don't agree with your methods. Pedro : Chat 13:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I hate piling up but per rationale given by Nick and reply to Kurt, I fear the possibility of this user becoming an admin.--Yamanbaiia^{(free hugs!)} 10:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Include/exclude standards do not match the guidelines, position on undue weight is unbalanced. Geogre (talk) 11:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No thanks. I do not believe this user could ever make a good admin. I would expect an admin to exhibit some mild capacity to learn from their errors and to improve their behaviour and their communicative abilities. The Transhumanist has failed on four occasions now - this being RFA #5 - to show any such improvement. Neıl ☎ 13:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose-- all the opposes outweigh the supports. And a piece of advice: Some users frown upon replying to every oppose. --Cameron (t|p|c) 14:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can understand the reasoning behind the 'joke' nomination opposes, and I sympathise with that, but considering that The Transhumanist has been with us for some while now, we may be able to apply a little common sense here and look back at the previous answers in the last four requests. However, I do also support the Kurt position, five nominations (some self-nominations at that) in just over a year is a little worrying per the obvious reasons. I am also on the side of Neil and Riana here too, nothing much has changed and that's pretty sad. For everything that I wish The Transhumanist could be, they aren't–a few are the poor communicative abilities, miscomprehension of community expectations (which is clearly not been acknowledged in the response to Kurt's oppose) and to improve understanding of what is expected at RFA. Unfortunately, TT has treated this request with little (later it will be considered a regretful manner) regard with short answers to questions, a very small statement towards the beginning and responses to every oppose, not something (in addition to said above) I look for an administrator candidate. Rudget (review) 15:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Was going to support based on your answer to question 4 then I saw your response to Kurt's oppose. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 15:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, seems like a rather flippant approach to adminship. In view of the repeated and large volumes of RFAs, recommend waiting at least six months before reapplying. Stifle (talk) 16:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose If you're not going to do anything with the buttons (Question 5), then what's the point, Other than to make a point? -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 16:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This oppose is largely unnecessary, but per Kurt. TTH says that we should not judge his candidacy by this page - I think that is a ridiculous assertion. Actions here are viewed as a window into your participation on en.wp just like your actions on any other page are. We don't need to look farther into your contribs at this point, because this page is enough: Your disdain for community processes and norms becomes clear with your disregard for those things right here (and not for the first time). You assume that folks are making an error of logic because they use the RfA nom itself to help determine the suitability of a candidate - well, you are wrong. If the RfA nom is standard, then people look further. If it is a joke and an insult to the community, then we need look no further. Avruch^T 16:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose - This comes across as a joke. As much as some people round here dislike Kurt's comment (including myself for the record), telling him to "get a life" is unacceptable, and makes me think you think that adminship is a laugh, which it clearly isn't. My fear is that you will make too many mistakes as an admin that could prove costly. 5 RFA's is just OTT in itself - take a six month break, get some hard contribs and renominate yourself. Your third RFA was in December 2007, your fourth in February 2008. Can I guess your sixth will be in June? Seriously, if you want admin tools, don't renom for at least five months. The more you nominte yourself, the more people will get extremely pissed off at you. It's in a way like your begging for the tools. For the record >> Adminship:No Joke. D.M.N. (talk) 20:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per your response to Kurt and per Nick. I read through all of the opposes, and some of your comments to them, no offence, but this RFA seriously seems like a joke, or a dare. The Helpful One ^(Review) 21:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, while it is true adminship should be "no big deal", that does not mean admins should treat their responsibilities and capabilities flippantly. This nomination and the nominee's behavior here does not give me any confidence in Transhumanist having access to those tools. And please spare us saying so again for a while, you've made your point. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I've seen nothing in his actions since that last RfA that indicates thats he giving any consideration to the communities opinions, as such I cant trust he would act within the communities standards. Gnan garra 00:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - indicating that answers can be found in the previous attempts isn't being helpful enough. I'm concerned that if given the extra buttons The Transhumanist would give vague or unhelpful answers to questions about why he took a particular course of action. PhilKnight (talk) 00:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Self-nomination. Agree or disagree it doesn't matter as it is a supported view.Netkinetic ^(t/c/@) 00:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It opposes the instructions of RfA, which are at the top of the RfA page, and which were created by community consensus. Also, the Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship specifically instructs to Follow the instructions. The guide also states that the closing "bureaucrat may discount comments which were made in bad faith or are of questionable validity" - well, since the instructions to RfA allows self-noms, and the appropriate place to get the instructions changed is on talk pages and not in nominee's RfA requests, "self-nomination" is a reason of questionable validity. The Transhumanist 20:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Opposing due to a self nomination isnt questionable validity, when the nomination is editors the 6 coming only 2 months after the previous(with 5 noms in 10 months) where many editors suggested you waited before another rfa. IMHO I'd consider a further nom in next few months deliberately disruptive with consideration to the level civility in this discussion I would participate in a discussion as to whether further sanctions should be applied. Gnan garra 00:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've broken no rules in nominating myself, and in fact, I have followed the RfA instructions. The Transhumanist 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose sorry, someone who's been through five previous RfAs should be able to sell themselves better than this, and that's without considering the merits of the previous RfAs and other opposes. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for refusing to take under consideration the advice from your previous RfAs and it doesn't even seem like you're taking RfA seriously at this point. Additionally, you had an RfA less than two months ago and it was SNOWed. Poor judgment. Enigma ^message Review 03:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, per Nick. Nick said it better than I could have. I understand the process is broken, but I do believe this shows a lack of respect for the community. this was ridiculous Enigma ^message Review 04:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Trial and error. Note that I have not repeated that approach. And I was just as shocked at the outcome as the rest of you - I inadvertantly exposed a weakness of RfA: the more questions that are asked, the more chance of an answer being the grounds for an oppose. For what it's worth, I thought Ibaranoff's answers were intelligent and showed his admin-worthiness. I strongly supported him. The Transhumanist 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's fairly obvious that asking more questions is more likely to trip a candidate up. If you ask someone 20 questions (or 15 or whatever it was), chances are at least one of the answers will not be satisfactory to some people, and it gives them a reason to oppose. I'm glad that you won't be bombing an RfA page like that again, at least. As for what you said above, that your RfA doesn't break the rules, let me play devil's advocate. I don't agree with opposing because of self-noms, because everyone has the right to self-nom, but your comment that it's within the rules doesn't carry. You could start a new RfA for yourself every two weeks and I don't think that would break any rules either. There are a ton of things that are not against the RfA "rules" but which many see as inadvisable. Enigma ^message Review 00:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, I have seen this user do much positive work, but this RfA simply seems to be sloppy, ill-thought out, and poorly done in general. The Ibaranoff24 RFA linked above in particular shows that while this user often means well, they often act rashly, which is definitely not a trait that I wish to see in an admin. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 09:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC).[reply]
With respect to the formatting of RfA's, why the fuss? This is a hypertext medium. All it takes to review a nom's contribution to the project is some clicking and scrolling. Special:PrefixIndex is also very useful. Concerning your other point, it was an isolated occurrence. (Also, see my answer to Enigmaman, directly above). The Transhumanist 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Neil at 34. I also fail to see how this user could ever become an admin. Perhaps the only way would be to exercise their right to vanish. return under a new account and wait 12 months, or however long it takes for someone to nominate them as there should be no more self-noms. George The Dragon (talk) 12:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have faith in you. The Transhumanist 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Kurt and response to Kurt. --Kbdank71 18:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Oppose~~ Strong Oppose - Transhumanist's reason for requesting adminship at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The Transhumanist 4 was "Because I desperately hunger for power, I nominate myself for adminship."! So basically, for the first time ever, per Kurt! TheProf - T / C (Go Wanderers!) 18:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was poking fun at Kurt, and his politicking to change the rules/instructions of RfA. I was being informal. Things get far too serious in here. The Transhumanist 19:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What makes you think I want to get the rules changed? I think they're perfectly fine as they are. I don't think people who self-nominate should be administrators, but that's not the same as wanting to forbid self-nominations entirely. It's like the difference between refusing to vote for a Communist in an election and barring Communists from running for office altogether. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 02:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Providing ducks for your shooting gallery. And it isn't like the example you provided. Nomination method is a procedure in the election process itself, not an aspect of the candidates. Opposing a self-nominee because he followed the allowed nomination procedure is an attack on the nomination procedure, and directly affects it. Nominees are avoiding the procedure because of your votes against those who use it. That's disruption of the process itself. The Transhumanist 22:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
'Not voting for communists' is the wrong analogy. The correct analogy is 'it's ok for people to want to run for office but I will only vote for candidates who either don't want to run for office, or candidates who can cloak their desire behind a facade of disinterest.' Seems an odd sort of principle (IMHO) because, if everyone followed this principle, office bearers would either be disinterested in the office to which they are elected or, um, dishonest (in at least one way).--RegentsPark (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The only purpose of this RfA is to antagonize people into opposing you for lacking seriousness, or not respecting the more absurd reasons that people oppose noms. I get it. Most people here get it. I completely agree with you. Most of the serious minded people here probably do. However, admins rely on the respect of the community to function effectively. Turning yourself into a target simply to make a point is a waste of time. Then again, since that actually is your point, I suppose this really isn't a waste of time after all... Deep. Mission Accomplished. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The purpose of this RfA is to volunteer to be an admin. I figured there is so much information about me and my contribs available, that a long introduction was unnecessary - also, I've been opposed for being too long-winded, too informal, and too bureaucratic. (Damned if you do, damned if you don't.) And because so many of the opposes at my RfAs concern my RfAs, I vary my approach each time. Long before I ever went for an RfA, something seemed odd to me about the process, but I only perceived it as a vague cognitive dissonance. When I went through RfA the first couple of times, I was dazed and confused. It was like a mine field and I stepped on many. It was also like a stoning. I was bewildered by the variety of reasons people threw their stones. Having a failed RfA really predisposes people to oppose again the next time. It's really been an uphill battle. At some point I became interested in the RfA system itself (in the context of what was happening to me), and I paid more attention to its dynamics. After awhile, as I learned the nuances of this system, I began to be able to discern a few of the patterns and underlying forces at work. I'm starting to be able to articulate what I'm observing. I've noticed some things wrong with the system, and when those wrongs are directed at me, in my RfAs, I believe I should address them in my RfAs, as they are relevant to the proceeding. I respect the community, and addressing their concerns here is not intended as disrespect.
Oppose - Fundamental lack of understanding and appreciation for the mechanism of this encyclopedia. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Tiptoety and per the discussion on Kurt's oppose. Antonio Lopez ^(talk) 21:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Kurt and Wizardman, as well as the discussion under opposes by Kurt. Xenon⁵⁴ 22:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose per Kurt Krashlandon (e) 23:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per the "Subject to bureaucrat discounting" comments he's making on other RFA's ...[5], just plain silly. Also per his 4 lines of sig and plenty of other reasons laid out above. RxS (talk) 00:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This candidate's recent behavior (including this RFA) seems to show very poor judgment. I would not trust him with the tools. --TheOther Bob 02:49, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose As in previous noms, the candidate lacks the maturity for the position. Major problems:
1. The very first sentence of this nom: "Just checking in, to see if you trust me." What do you think we are, your trust-o-meter? How insulting. Oh, and btw, no we do not trust you with the tools.
2. Question #4: "You should support me because I'll do a good job, indicated by the good job I've done with the tools I currently have." I don't give a damn about how well you use the tools; we know that already, and I had never opposed on those grounds. I did oppose, however, on your attitude, which obviously did not change from the last time I opposed you.
3. Question #5: "They know what they need help with the most, so I'll defer to their judgement." Then why are you here? For the status symbol?
4. Sarcasticidealist's oppose: "My primary reason for wanting the tools is that "they are there". It's why Mount Everest was climbed." Absurd and nonsensical. The admin tools are there because they are used to help the encyclopedia, not just because "they are there." Another indication of belittlement of the true implications of adminship. Yes, I know, "no big deal," but the candidate takes it too far.
5. Nick's oppose: "I pose no danger to the project." Your attitude and behavior poses a danger to the community.
6. ArcAngel's oppose: "Eagerness is energy. Eagerness is willingness to help." Eagerness is not the entire equation, if you haven't realized that after five admin noms. Competence and behavior are important too.
7. Kurt's oppose: I'm not even going to bother quoting what you said. Yes, most of us disagree with Kurt, but that flippant comment was one of the worst things a candidate can make on their RfA. Shame.
8. Jmlk17's oppose: "But it rhymes!" It cries of immaturity.
9. Pedro's oppose: "I'm just taking an approach that you don't agree with." You're also taking an approach that obviously doesn't work. There's a difference between perseverance and stubbornness, and you have pretty much crossed the line into the latter already.
10. I don't know what you were thinking, but if I can find so many problems on this RfA alone, then I fear looking in the rest of your contribs. —Kurykh 03:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. "Trust-o-meter." Hey, that's a good nickname for this department. I like it even better than "The Meatgrinder". :) At least we agree that trust is important. That's a start.
  2. What's wrong with my attitude? I'm informal on informal discussion pages. Which is what this is. Fault me for treating it like any other discussion page. I can live with that.
  3. No, not a status symbol. If someone gave me a car and handed me the keys, I'd make use of them. I'd stick to the rules of the road and would be careful not to run anybody over. Same thing applies here.
  4. Wikipedia is my Mount Everest. And so far, it's been one hell of an expedition. Yes, the admin tools are designed specifically to help the encyclopedia. And because they exist, I want them. I pledge to put them to good use. If the tools weren't there, we wouldn't be here.
  5. Even in here, I've treated others exactly the way I would like to be treated, including the friendly jibe. I pose no danger to the community. I've striven to help the community on a daily basis, and I bend over backwards to help others. And I pledge to continue doing so. I've been straightforward and honest. And I disagree with the way oppose votes are being applied in RfA to force me (and others) to jump through pedantic hoops, enforcing unofficial rules such as "present your nom in such and such a way", "don't nominate yourself", "don't reply to opposes", "don't follow such and such official rules", "wait x months until your next RfA", "answer the optional questions", "or else (I will vote against you)". They are an abuse of the voting privilege. They have nothing to do with Wikipedia or interaction with others outside of RfA. That one's willingness to go along with such nonsense is an indication of admin-worthiness is a rationalization. And therefore, I respectfully disagree. Tolerating such reasons is the wrong approach. Standing up to them is the right thing to do.
  6. Eagerness is part of the equation. Trust is another. And so is ability. I'd also add care, compassion, and dedication. RfA is a strange place, and complex. Being stuck in here so long has had at least one positive side effect. I'm only now beginning to understand RfA to a degree that I can articulate its political dynamics.
  7. I finally understand the essence of Kurt's opposition to self-nominations. Disruption of an official Wikipedia process.
  8. But it did rhyme. :) I was making fun of my own screw up.
  9. I've varied my approach each time. Based on the responses, at least this RfA is an improvement over my last one. That's a step in the right direction.
  10. I really wish you would take a look at my contribs. The Transhumanist 06:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Yes, trust is important. Whether you have our trust or not is even more important on this RfA. We're not here to debate philosophy.
    2. You're not being informal. You're being tactless and unapologetic about it.
    3. You need a driver's license to drive. Apparently you didn't even pass the written part of the exam.
    4. So you're on one hell of an expedition. Ever realized you didn't bring the proper equipment? Like, oh I don't know, the ability to think twice before making any remarks?
    5. I wasn't asking you to jump through pedantic hoops. I'm asking you to change your attitude. And you're still condescending to me. Touché.
    6. You are quite right. Eagerness? Check. Ability. No. Trust. No.
    7. You are not incorrect about Kurt's oppose. I disagree with it too. But don't you think that constantly hounding on the obvious, when the entire community already knows the obvious, is stupid? You're preaching to the choir.
    8. There's a point when self-depreciating humor doesn't work anymore. Not only does it not work now, it's getting lame.
    9. Not even getting 50% approval is an improvement? You've got low expectations there.
    10. Now I have. My oppose stands.
    11. I like mavericks. But I dislike mavericks who rub their uniqueness in people's faces. That's not uniqueness. That's called arrogance and foolishness. And I am unapologetic about not mincing my words. —Kurykh 07:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      1. Agreed. Just "Trust-o-meters". ;)
      2. I apologized twice (once above, and once below).
      3. What a nice thing to say.
      4. Now you're just blowing it way out of proportion.
      5. I know how you feel.
      6. OK.
      7. It wasn't all that obvious. It took a long while to arrive at that conclusion and its implications.
      8. I'd prefer to drop the issue too.
      9. I didn't mention my expectations.
      10. Care to share what you found?
      11. Please see WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA The Transhumanist 08:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm being blunt and insulting. I tried being nice and calm, but you didn't get it. You even gave me the impression of not wanting to understand. Now it seems like you know what my true feeling of your ability is. Good. I will start being nice again. —Kurykh 23:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to sit this RfA out, but this edit convinced me otherwise.Balloonman (talk) 03:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose I'm presuming there's a reason this person has failed Rfa 4 prior times. More to the point, I'm presuming there's a reason he's still trying. Sounds, as other people have pointed out, a bit power hungry and obssesed with the position to me. TheNobleSith (talk) 03:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm obsessed with everything Wikipedia. I'm a Wikipediholic all the way. And though I'm tool hungry, I have no desire to abuse the tools. The Transhumanist 07:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The candidate's behavior during this RfA does not make me feel that I can trust the user with the admin tools. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm with Balloonman. I find the Kurt notice a very uncivil joke, if it's meant to be a joke, or proof of poor judgement if it's meant seriously. Dean B (talk) 04:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't meant seriously. But it backfired. In the end, the joke was on me. The Transhumanist 06:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very Weak Oppose. I see the points of both sides, so I was going to !vote neutal on this one, but then the get a life comment really didn't impress me. Sure, I've heard the wife/life thing before, but your own RFA is not the place to try to be slick and jab someone. Useight (talk) 05:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True. I apologize. It won't happen again. The Transhumanist 06:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know it was a joke. I've done the same wife/life thing myself. I normally wouldn't oppose just for that trifle thing, but seeing that this RFA wasn't going to pass anyway, I felt it was okay for me to !vote oppose. I changed it to Very Weak Oppose. I'm sure you're aware that Kurt already takes a lot of grief for his opinion and doesn't need any more. I'm all for joking around, but during your RFA, you're under scrutiny big-time and have to carefully word every edit. I've seen your work and I'm impressed by your contributions. I'm sure you'll make a great admin in the future. Useight (talk) 07:27, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your encouragement and your advice. The Transhumanist 08:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The Transhumanist presents weak reasons for adminship. There is no suggestion that he needs the tools. Axl (talk) 09:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I specifically do not need the tools. I specifically do not need to edit Wikipedia, yet I use Wikipedia-editing tools extensively. Do I need to use them? No. But it benefits the encyclopedia that I do. Give me a hammer, and I'll pound nails. Give me a fishing rod, and I'll fish. Give me a rifle, and I'll defend the country. You're making RfA too complex. The Transhumanist 18:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let me re-phrase my comment: according to the answer to question 1, The Transhumanist demonstrates no evidence that he plans to use the tools. Has any admin ever asked The Transhumanist for assistance, yet been disappointed that he didn't have the tools? Axl (talk) 10:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm dubious. Moreschi (talk) (debate) 10:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mee too. The Transhumanist 18:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a problem with the short answers given (after four RfA's, it gets a little silly), but this is not helpful. (I am now strong in my opposition as per this bit of ridiculous juvenilia - it almost seems like the only reason you got into that debate was so that you could be the first to post a link to WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL.) --Badger Drink (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per the same reasons I opposed in previous Rfas - I don't believe this editor is suited for the tools. KillerChihuahua^?!? 23:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any improvement from the last four RFAs and ability to take into account community input and adapt is required of admins. Odd nature (talk) 23:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I do not feel this user is suitable for admin tools, at least for now. Stephenchou0722 (talk) 02:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose reluctantly, because I feel that TT has a lot to offer Wikipedia. At this time, I do not believe that TT is ready for administrator tools, due primarily to his attitude towards the RFA process. It's one thing to not take it too seriously, but it is quite another to not take it seriously at all. The flippant attitude he displayed during his fourth request (a rather pointed attempt to bait another user) and this one (which indicates that he's just going through the motions) to me indicates some judgment issues that need to be resolved before he gets the tools. Some of his responses to the opposes here are also ill-considered. Horologium (talk) 03:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There really isn't much change from the last 4 RfA's--the tendentious responses to nearly every oppose begins to get annoying. Per all the other opposes too. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 07:45, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I started off wanting to support this Rfa, having read the Q and A section. I really take the view that people can and do turn over a new leaf and become fully acceptable. However reading the Transhumanist replies to opposers did indicate to me a significant problem, it's hard for me to define, I was going to say it's an attitude problem but that is not quite it, it's more like a misconception of how to deal with people <tonnes of rambling removed, Go read the book How to Win Friends and Influence People>. I'd be happy to support you in the future if I see a real change in attitude, I would even be happy to nominate you myself. SunCreator (talk) 13:09, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. Unnecessary rude response to Kurt Weber, way too many RfAs in such a short space of time; I also get the feeling that, well, you just don't care about what you do and the consequences of your actions. Qst (talk) 15:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for many reasons raised above as well as my oppose votes on his other RfA's. Jim62sch^dissera! 17:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: As many people have stated, I am concerned with the amount of RfAs this user has participated in and the many self nominations. I also do not like the reply to Nick's comments above. User sounds almost like they think they deserve the mop because of the amount of time they have put into Wikipedia. The philosophy that should be followed is that adminship should be based on quantity not quality of edits. My suggestion is that you should wait until you are nominated by a respected user. I believe another self nomination regardless of the time between RfAs will result in a similar RfA as this one. Orfen ^{User Talk} | _Contribs 22:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you mean "quality not quantity", not the other way around. ;) Enigma ^message Review 02:24, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose (ec w/Orfen) I get the sense that you feel this is a trophy you deserve, and it's anything but that. I also get the sense you've never served in a real-life position of leadership, because if you had you would see why your RFAs keep failing. This is not a reward. It's not a prize. It's not a license to do what you want and say what you will. Based just on your behavior during this RFA alone, it's clear that much drama would ensue quickly if you received the tools. - KrakatoaKatie 22:21, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The lack of effort expended on the basic questions doesn't exactly instill a desire to hand over the mop. As others have said, adminship shouldn't merely be earned by a massive edit count and being around for a long time. And perhaps more importantly, given that admins play a larger than average role in shaping the experiences of other members of the project (blocks, judging consensus in XfD's), attitude matters. (There's also my concern about this being the 5th RfA and still looking like it does, but that's been better described by others). --Bfigura ^(talk) 02:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Regretful Oppose When I was on "retirement" for a while, I went back to Wikipedia 6 days later today to stumble upon your 5th RfA. I was initally going to support you based on your dedication and the records from your 3rd RfA, but when I look at your last RfA and this one, I was appalled. Your communication skills in this RfA and your over-eagerness in getting those tools worries me. Eagerness is good, but too much of it hurts. Also, when I look at this RfA, you seem to take this as a joke. Joking is good, but the most important thing is when the proper time to joke around (not RfA, but like April Fool's Day). You are a great editor in my eyes TT, and I'm willing to support you later, but this is not the right time. Sorry. :( PrestonH 04:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Opppose. Nothing new to see here, move along. -- Iterator12n ^Talk 04:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Communication skills need a lot of work, and not everything can be taken as a joke. 5th RFA? Sorry, but you need to stop nominating yourself based on quantity of edits and your excessive need for power hunger, as you stated yourself. Have some patience and let someone else nominate you for good contribs and not edit count. Tim meh ! 17:26, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SNOW - The Transhumanist 21:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. User opposes their own RfA? MrPrada (talk) 22:11, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think he's withdrawing his RFA. Useight (talk) 22:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

Neutral - It doesn't look like a great deal of effort has been put into this RfA. I've seen this user around, but if he can't take the time to answer the questions and give a more substantial statement, why should I take the time to review his contributions? --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As you probably guessed, I don't place much stock in the RfA process, and I prefer to put my effort into Wikipedia itself and help users. You don't need my help in coming to a sound decision. Simply browse my contributions and ask yourself: "Will he abuse the tools?" and "Will he use the tools skillfully?" The Transhumanist 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral - I like the spirit of this user - I'm waiting to see answers to questions. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 21:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC) Changed to support. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 22:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. I'm with Wisdom on this. Good user, lots of RfAs. Seems like a half-baked effort here for #5. What have you done since 1,2,3,4, and now 5 to warrant a passing RfA? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a dedicated and conscientious contributor. Isn't that enough? The Transhumanist 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Usually, yes. For RfA #1. But 4 times before this, the community, for one reason or another, has decided that you shouldn't be given the admin buttons. I'm not saying I'll never support, I might even support this RfA. I'm simply asking what have you done differently from your previous attempts at adminship to allay the concerns of other editors? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm here on Wikipedia day after day, month after month, solving problems, and not creating them. The only relevant concerns are trust and competence. And I address those concerns every day by doing my best. The Transhumanist 23:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, "trust and competence" are not the "only relevant concerns". You were here day after day, month after month, solving problems during your last 4 RfAs. The fact is that you have spent more time arguing here against the neutral/oppose section than you did answering the nom statement appropriately (whatever you feel about the process is irrelevant, it's the process). There are lots and lots of admin "processes" that I disagree with. But I personally wouldn't be this pointy about it. Staying neutral. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral, leaning support Transhumanist, running so soon? I can attest to the abilities of this user, but I will remain neutral until the questions are answered. --Shark face 217 22:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done The Transhumanist 22:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote. --Shark face 217 23:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral per Wisdom and Keeper. I'd prefer longer and a bit more specific answers, though. I am very willing to change this vote. Spencer^T♦^C 22:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Witnesses will serve you better. Simply wait, and others will inform you of everything you need to know about me to make your decision. The Transhumanist 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changing to support, as adminship is "no big deal". Anyway, Transhumanist has a lot of experience anyway. Spencer^T♦^C 23:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral pending further effort. If the candidate does not take RfA seriously, she/he should not expect respondents to take her/his candidacy seriously. Skomorokh 22:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I take Wikipedia seriously. I think that's easy to see. The Transhumanist 22:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Being that this is your 5th RfA, it is quite clearly not easy for the rest of us to see. I'm sure it's not intended, but you seem a bit dismissive. Maybe you can help us see how seriously you take Wikipedia by taking this request seriously. - auburnpilot talk 23:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do take this request seriously. The Transhumanist 23:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't think you do. Your responses indicate to me that you're only on RfA for your own personal gain. In other words, 5 RfAs, 3 of which were self-noms, with successive RfAs coming without addressing concerns made in the past 4 RfAs, is smack-in-the-face evidence of power hunger. Come back to RfA in a year, and no less. — scetoaux (T|C) 19:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral pending additional comments, and responses to questions. Concerns about your seriousness regarding RfA and Keeper76's comments regarding the addressing of the issues that kept your 4 previous RfAs from succeeding keep me from supporting. Cheers, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 00:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After further reviewing previous RfA's, your comment about "power hunger" makes me seriously weary about this RfA. Changed to Oppose Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 01:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral per answer to question 5 (which, now that I think about it, was pretty close to question 1). I'm going to have to review The Transhumanist's contributions and guess at the possible admin tasks he might undertake and how he might address them. (As a side note, I've been an admin since September and I haven't done all of the admin tasks yet. I specialize in a few areas.) I don't have time to do this detailed review right now, though -- it might take a while yet. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 03:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Responding to an oppose vote with something along the lines of "Get a life" displays an arrogant approach unbecoming of an admin candidate. It's a pity, because Transhumanist has a mostly good record of constructive work. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - Per Sharkface and Keeper. - Shudde ^talk 06:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Partially because your practice AfD closures in January didn't seem to go very well - I don't think you're dispassionate (objective) enough to make a good admin at the moment. Also because you didn't take my advice this morning, and wait a few months before going for RfA again (and deleted my advice, though that's your prerogative on your talkpage) - especially considering your 4th RfA. Also because your bright signature still drives me nuts. Sorry. -- Quiddity (talk) 06:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Of course I deleted it. You responded to a confidential email on my talk page. The Transhumanist 08:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As I suggested, I think you'd be better off just using {{editprotected}} and the other processes, like the thousands of other regular editors do. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that I'm not being supportive, or if I've been at all rude. But I really do believe that you are better as an editor than you would be as a janitor. Especially now that Gnangarra, who I think was trying to help you learn the Afd ropes, has opposed this nom. But there are many editors who aren't suited for janitorial work.

It's not that you're not trustworthy (You're definitely full of good faith and intentions), it's that you're of the wrong Temperament or something, and your confident decisions are too often disagreed with.

And it's not like you need more work! -- Quiddity (talk) 05:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even as someone who opposed his nomination, I find it pathetically ridiculous you'd factor someone's signature in to consideration. TheNobleSith (talk) 01:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral too many noms... Sceptre ^(talk) 15:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does that mean a person who is on their Xth nom and who is sufficiently qualified and supported by a large part of the community shouldn't get the tools because he or she applied often before? (Note: This is a question in general and should not be taken in any way as relating to this particular RFA). --Shark face 217 23:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
comment Maybe this issue could be discussed elsewhere, but I have to say I agree with Sharkface. Wanting it isn't bad unless you want it for the wrong reason. Someone who is told no again and again and still tries to prove they are capable should be commended for their tenacity and dedication in the face of adversity, IMHO. Beeblbrox (talk) 05:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - Kind of soon since the last nom, don't haste things up, adminship isn't really a new "power", its more like a "lot of new little annoyances", one little mistake and you will find yourself involved in one of those notorious "admin abuse" threads on AN/I. While I also think that Kurt's "power hungry" rationale is usually very, very, very ridiculous that response went a little too far. - Caribbean~H.Q. 17:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Per Kurt Weber, although not strong enough to oppose. Monobi (talk) 01:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I think this user is a pretty good user. But I do not like some/most of his answers. My vote is not strong enough to oppose. Good luck anyway. Cheers.--RyRy5 ^{Talk to RyRy} 01:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - great editor, but I can't support yet, especially with two half-hearted nominations in a row. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 17:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - yes you've been around a long time and yes adminship is no big deal, but I get a sense through many of the above interactions there is something missing in the communication/translation/negotiation aspects in your interactions with other people. I can't say WP would be worse off with you as an admin but I can't say it'd be better either. Sorry. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. As noted, the candidate's answer to Question 4 (which I posted) is a good answer, and I think that the candidate would indeed be a benefit to the project if granted the tools. Some of the comments under oppose, both by and about the candidate, give me pause, however. I'd like an answer to my follow-up question (under #6 by Elkman) before supporting or opposing. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 01:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral good editor, but Transhumanist could put more effort on his answers. Carlosguitar ^{(Yes Executor?)} 23:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Tough call. -- Avi (talk) 07:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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