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Can someone change the unit costs to what today's prices are for making the units please. EthanKid17 18:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EthanKid17 (talk • contribs)

Don't think so. Factoring inflation can be inaccurate and might be considered original research. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there a F-15/E somewhere because i pretty sure there is one and if there is one it should be added in with it's predecessor's. EthanKid17 18:15, 10 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EthanKid17 (talk • contribs)

You should look through this article for the F-15E links.. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you for clarifying for me --EthanKid17 18:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EthanKid17 (talk • contribs)

This image may be too artistic for the WP article but it's still a cool shot. --Marc Kupper|talk 09:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recent contract http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4820 for mod kits to change 68 F-15S to F-15SA for Saudi Arabia, variants not actually mentioned in article! MilborneOne (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The F-15S and SA are F-15E-based versions. See the McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle article. The SA upgrades are mentioned there, but the mod kit contract has not been added there yet. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:50, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks hadnt noticed they were E variants. MilborneOne (talk) 21:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is based of the Speech of an US Col. which was rebutted by the IAF as well as the USAF.

here is the IAF's version of Red Flag 2008

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2ml10I-_TI

Apart from that, this is another article showing otherwise

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2008/11/a-final-word-from-india-on-you.html

So, rather not put something up which has no solid evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.62.161.49 (talk) 15:33, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You and your 'IP pals' have repeatedly removed the text on this without any explanation, which looks like vandalism. There's just as must evidence for this as Cope 2004, which you have left alone. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will do more research on Cope India 2004 and get back. But in this case, it seems a conclusion is being made based of a person's speech which was officially never accepted by anyone, rather it became famous around the internet among people who rather wanted ot see the USAF win over the IAF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.62.171.97 (talk) 13:24, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The current lede image isn't too bad but this one I uploaded shows the silhouette much better. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 22:53, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That does look better. But either image is fine with me. -Fnlayson (talk) 12:58, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it does look better. Green547 (talk) 01:10, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

can anyone add there if even first version used "glass" cockpit or they were good old "clocks" avionics like in f-4 and many other planes in taht time used. 2A00:1028:9199:52F6:81B1:C0BB:E0CE:B38 (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A few F-15E(and versions) was shot down by fire from the ground, or hit by a missile air-to-air. The fact that the loss is not denied, but there is a dispute about the causes (AAA or air defense missiles and air-to-air missiles).^{[1] [2][3][4]} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.105.158.243 (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• The F-15E is the strike version and is mainly covered at McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, not here. Also, the text about combat wins and losses states air superiority versions, the A/B/C/D models. It can't get much clearer than this, imo. -Fnlayson (talk) 21:21, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Main article: List of F-15 operators

Israel

Israeli Air Force has operated F-15s since 1977. The IAF has 43 F-15A/B/C/D (20 F-15A, 6 F-15B, 11 F-15C, and 6 F-15D) aircraft in service as of January 2011.[98]

+ http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/bv/mig25isr/mig25isr.html

+ think you know that many times the air-to-air missile got into F15 but the plane was not shot down and was repaired + There are good sources I can add more (especially this)

+ Operational history[edit] Introduction and early service[edit] + http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/bv/mig25isr/mig25isr.html but not F-15E_Strike_Eagle exactly F-15, on the source strictly as F15 and does not E version but without the debris on the ground.

I do not think that Airwar.ru is a WP:Reliable Source - as such, what it says cannot have any bearing in formal work such as an encyclopedia. Kyteto (talk) 15:08, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I had made a minor edit.

"A variety of air-to-air weaponry can be carried by the F-15. An automated weapon system enables the pilot to perform aerial combat effectively and safely, using the head-up display and the avionics and weapons controls located on the engine throttles or control stick. When the pilot changes from one weapon system to another, visual guidance for the required weapon automatically appears on the head-up display."

I removed the "and safely" because I don't think there is any such thing as safe combat. However, I was reverted. I wanted to ask why? Green547 (talk) 00:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's certainty not what the text means. Don't you think inadvertently releasing a weapon would be unsafe? -Fnlayson (talk) 01:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe "...enables the pilot to release/use weapons effectively and safely..." would be worded better. Because "...enables the pilot to perform aerial combat effectively and safely..." might be a bit misleading. It's not a big deal anyway. Green547 (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm editing it, since no one has made an objection. Green547 (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• 1992. В США против Су-27 ВВС России на условиях ближнего боя. Значительное превосходство было показано за Су-27.^[1][2]
• 1998. ВВС Германии и США над Германией. Миг-29 показал абсолютное превосходство над F-16, и в ближнем бою возможность захватывать цель в 30 раз большем объёме пространства чем F-15.^[3] В нескольких учебных боях против пилотов НАТО на F-15 МиГ-29 показал преимущество.^[4]
• 2004. В Британии в ходе встречи британского Eurofighter Typhoon с двумя американскими истребителями F-15E по инициативе американцев имитировалось боевое столкновение. Typhoon быстро смог поразить обе машины.^[5][6] Причём в 2015 Индийские Су-30МКИ показал полное превосходство над Британцами.^[7][8][9]
• 2005 Су-30МКИ ВВС Индии показал превосходство над F-16 и F-15 C/D Eagle ВВС США в небе над Индией. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.218.183.165 (talk) 16:02, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You need to repeat your comment in English please as this is English Wikipedia, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 18:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

next week212.119.233.106 (talk) 04:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• 1992. In the United States against the Su-27 Russian Air Force on condition of close combat. Perfection has been shown for the Su-27. Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).
• 2003 Cope India, 3 wins out of 4 clashes over the United States for the Su-30. Later napsiala USA today that the Air Force could interfere with other countries to seize air supremacy for the United States. <Ref> http://lenta.ru/world/2004/06/28/airforce/ </ ref>
• 2004 Su-30K India against F-15C US short- and medium-distance victory for India. <Ref> http://svpressa.ru/post/article/104405/ </ ref> United States recognized that the victory was not. India has declared victory, and in particular to one victory over the F-15 by the MiG-21. <Ref> http://lenta.ru/articles/2005/11/08/migs/ </ ref> Su-30 used a less effective H001 is the latest radar on the Su-30MKI replaced by more advanced. In the melee, India reached 90% wins. Excellence received and at medium ranges. <Ref> http://topwar.ru/20485-su-30mki-odin-iz-luchshih-v-svoem-klasse.html </ ref>
• 2005, the Su-30MKI Indian Air Force has shown superiority over the F-16 and F-15 C / D Eagle US Air Force in the skies over India. Along with the F-16 operated AWACS E-3 Sentry. <Ref> http://lenta.ru/articles/2005/11/08/migs/ </ ref>
• 2008. Teachings Red Flag-2008, which took place in the United States. The participants of the exercise were the United States, India, South Korea and France. F-15 have succumbed-30MKI in terms of the implementation of the destruction of the fighters, and other problems of the war in the air (strikes on ground targets and air defense suppression). <Ref> http://topwar.ru/20485-su-30mki-odin-iz- luchshih-v-svoem-klasse.html </ ref>