ArbCom case request

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You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#An admin advising another user to deliberately introduce errors and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

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Request for arbitration declined

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The request for arbitration in which you were named as a party has been declined by the Arbitration Committee. Arbitrators generally expressed the view that this incident on its own did not yet require arbitration and could have likely been resolved at AN/I. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust đŸ’Ź 16:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Capitalization of templates

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Can I ask what you are doing with edits like [1], [2] and [3]? Template titles—like article titles—will act the same whether the first letter is capitalised or not. These edits are unnecessary and give the appearance of edit-farming. Your edit count is meaningless, and it is a waste of your valuable time to pursue edits by quantity, rather than quality (see WP:EDITCOUNT, or WP:COUNTITIS).

In case you do pursue edits like this—although I have no clue why you would—can you at least make sure to mark them as minor edits? — HTGS (talk) 05:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

A few other people also give the appearance of edit-farming IMO. Quality edits, not quantity edits is totally correct. Fixing minor formatting errors are still good contributions to the encyclopedia.
See WP:SDFORMAT - short desc should start with a capital letter (capitalization). Alexeyevitch(talk) 05:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
What HTGS is saying is that those edits are superfluous. If you do them while doing other edits to an article, that makes it an incidental edit and that's fine. If that's the only edit to an article, then it's pointless as it does not change anything anywhere. Schwede66 05:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK. Let's just keep in mind that it is how it should be stylized. But editing an article just to capitalize the first letter is pointless. Alexeyevitch(talk) 06:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think you are misinterpreting WP:SDFORMAT. It is saying that the description itself should start with a capital letter, not the template name. E.g. at Kurangaituku, 'Supernatural' should start with a capital (which it does). It doesn't matter whether the template name starts with a capital or not. For example, in the mentions of templates and examples of use at Wikipedia:Citation templates, they are written with a capital in some instances, and without in many other instances. Nurg (talk) 08:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh... okay. I acknowledge that. Alexeyevitch(talk) 08:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Alexeyevitch. You have been making useful changes and additions elsewhere, so I genuinely mean it when I say I would rather see you spend your time doing stuff that’s more valuable. If the templates ever get to the point where they need to be capitalised we can build a bot to do that ;) — HTGS (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Excellent! Thank you everyone!   Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Colored pencil

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Hello, just dropping by to tell you that that article has {{Use British English}}, so colour is indeed the right spelling. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC) My bad, I stand corrected. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

:The IP added the template simply because they wanted to. And the article title is American English so it's awkward having the content in British English. Also this article was written using American English and it should be kept without consensus. (See WP:ENGVAR) Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Request

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Hiya,

I see you've dealt with Roger 8 Roger and his agenda before. Would you mind taking a look at the talk page for Colony of New Zealand? I've started a discussion there and he is making things difficult, to say the least. Dhantegge (talk) 06:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that page is on my watchlist. I will comment there later this evening. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I had a look at the essay Wikipedia:No personal attacks. It says "editors are allowed to have personal political POV, as long as it does not negatively affect their editing and discussions". I'm not in any way trying to pick on this editor or be rude - I don't know him at all - but I do think the arguments he has made are eurocentric at best, and his comments about "Māori elites" are troubling. But hey - I'm a relatively new editor, and I don't want to lose whatever moral high ground I might have. So I think I'll leave it for now. Dhantegge (talk) 11:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Foveaux Strait

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Your GA nomination of Foveaux Strait

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The article Foveaux Strait you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Foveaux Strait for comments about the article, and Talk:Foveaux Strait/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Ganesha811 -- Ganesha811 (talk) 14:22, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ka pai @Alexeyevitch! David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 18:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you both, I appreciate it. Alexeyevitch(talk) 22:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I also want to acknowledge Marshelec's contributions to the article, ka pai. Alexeyevitch(talk) 22:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

WP:GARC: Invitation to review 2024 Sugar Bowl

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Hello Alexeyevitch, You have been paired at good article review circles to review 2024 Sugar Bowl. At the same time, another user will be reviewing the article you nominated. Please wait 24 hours or until all users have accepted their nomination before starting your review in case a user in your circle decides to decline their invite.

To accept or decline this invitation to review the article, visit WT:GARC#Circle #8.

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Your GA nomination of Opawa

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Opawa you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of TechnoSquirrel69 -- TechnoSquirrel69 (talk) 05:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Meetup

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Don't know what will happen at the meetup; whether it's entirely social or we'll get into editing. I'll bring my laptop along. Schwede66 08:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Okay. I'll also bring my laptop. Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Most Australian articles

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Have Use Australian English date=April 2014 (or whatever date) - so your edit at Hobart was reverted. If you able to ascertain that a particular usage is verifiable/clarifiable - the edit summary of correct might be for some usages, but in general the Australian usage is programme. Thanks. JarrahTree 08:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Per its talk page: This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party). Australian articles should be written Australian English. Hence why I think "program" is correct. Alexeyevitch(talk) 08:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
hahah - thats funny, I was sure we hadnt americanised... oh well... sorry to have bothered... JarrahTree 11:49, 11 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Spelling

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Hi there. Can you please not get into edit wars about spelling. Articles about NZ subjects are generally understood to be in NZ English even if they don't have the "use NZ English" flag. See MOS:TIES for more info. Cheers. Daveosaurus (talk) 03:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Daveosaurus, I hope you are still in the middle of writing the same to Traumnovelle’s talk page. The responsibility to avoid edit wars falls on both parties. — HTGS (talk) 03:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Feel free to add a corresponding note yourself if you wish. Daveosaurus (talk) 04:03, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Okay. I'm not sure what to do now. I'm aware both spellings are acceptable for New Zealand English. Alexeyevitch(talk) 04:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
If in doubt, leave a note on the talk page and ask for guidance. It doesn't really matter which word is used (the meaning is obvious in context) but rapid-fire reverts of uncontentious edits just annoy people. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
If both spellings are acceptable, then the appropriate thing to do is tap the sign that says MOS:RETAIN and move on to more interesting arguments. Editors who truly wish to litigate out which spelling is “correct” should probably do so at MOS:SPELLING, which to my dismay does not list spelled/spelt, etc. I would take its absence from the list as weak evidence that both forms are acceptable.
Edit wars are easiest to avoid when WP:BRD is followed. I see no version of this (silly) dispute in which Alexeyevitch is more deserving of calling out than @Traumnovelle. — HTGS (talk) 05:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
It only takes one editor to stop edit warring, and of these two I have found Alexeyevitch more amenable to an appeal to common sense. Daveosaurus (talk) 06:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have no problem with the 'burnt/learnt' spelling but editors should be aware of MOS:RETAIN. Alexeyevitch(talk) 06:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Except one spelling is not acceptable, despite the OR casuistry to justify it because the editor dislikes NZ/British spelling. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to correct spelling mistakes. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yet again, back in the day it made a lot more sense to use 'burnt/spelt' and so on when this was a British colony and many publications used this spelling but now sources tend to use both spellings. Hence why there is no preferred spelling on New Zealand-related articles. Regardless of what OED says, it's clear 'burned/spelled' have increasingly become more common in recent years. Furthermore, New Zealand has inconsistencies with these spellings e.g. [4] and Beattie 1945. Changing these acceptable spellings is a breach of MOS:RETAIN. Alexeyevitch(talk) 10:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cherrypicking a bunch of misspellings means nothing. The contemporary Herald is littered with spelling errors. A tertiary source is what should be relied on in this instance not your OR. MOS:RETAIN refers to English varieties not correcting a spelling of the existing variety. Traumnovelle (talk) 10:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Lets keep these spellings as is since both spellings are acceptable. I'll be mindful of MOS:RETAIN. Alexeyevitch(talk) 10:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
According to which source is it acceptable? Traumnovelle (talk) 10:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Huh, it's unclear what you mean. There are many sources which indacates that both spellings are used. The spelling in the New Zealand publications might differ between who is writting the content and prehaps when was it published.
This discussion is getting really repetitive. To put it simply, both spellings are acceptable. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
A source that states spelled as being New Zealand English. I don't want you to tell me it is acceptable, I want a reliable source that states it. Traumnovelle (talk) 11:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
No, the '-ed' spellings are found in reliable sources, likewise the '-t' spelling. Changing acceptable spellings is a breach of MOS:RETAIN. Why are you carrying on this discussion? It's clear that both spellings are used in NZ. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
For example, it's acceptable to say: McDougall learned te reo Māori.[5]
And, 650 hectares was burned.[6]
And, It's European name is spelled incorrectly. [7]
Inconsistent spellings include The Press articles: burned through 650 hectares also the 2024 Port Hills fire burnt native bush [8]
And, I’ve learnt that people...[9]
And, An officer knelt...[10] Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Just read a reliable source which has more of this carry-on. [11]
  • Riccarton is Putaringamotu, and it is spelled such to the present day. p. 102
  • Deep Creek was known to Māori as Pari-haka. This name can be spelt in quite a variety of ways... p. 37
(sigh) It's really confusing, but it seems like both are used. Alexeyevitch(talk) 12:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply