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: Yes, one way to know what parts the whole is made up of is to look at the Filter and Split section. In the case of editors, you can see that there's an option to split by editor type: https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|editor_type~anonymous*group-bot*name-bot*user. And the parts you can choose to include/exclude are anonymous, registered user, registered user in the "bot" group (group-bot), and registered user with a name that looks like a "bot" (name-bot). We'll be adding some of these explanations to tool-tips when you hover over the text, when we work on this task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177950. Hope this helps, sorry I'm slow at seeing wiki notifications :) [[User:Milimetric (WMF)|Milimetric (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Milimetric (WMF)|talk]]) 17:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC) |
: Yes, one way to know what parts the whole is made up of is to look at the Filter and Split section. In the case of editors, you can see that there's an option to split by editor type: https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|editor_type~anonymous*group-bot*name-bot*user. And the parts you can choose to include/exclude are anonymous, registered user, registered user in the "bot" group (group-bot), and registered user with a name that looks like a "bot" (name-bot). We'll be adding some of these explanations to tool-tips when you hover over the text, when we work on this task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177950. Hope this helps, sorry I'm slow at seeing wiki notifications :) [[User:Milimetric (WMF)|Milimetric (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Milimetric (WMF)|talk]]) 17:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Milimetric (WMF)}} thank you for your answer! I wanted to know what is the typical edit number for anonymous editors and until how many edits can a newly registered user survive, but for that I missed a ''combined'' option where I could split the anonymous/registered editors by activity level :) Therefore I tried to find out if I could derive an estimation from the current stats. (In your example there was around [https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|editor_type~anonymous 36k anonymous editors] and around [https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|activity_level~1..4-edits 45k editors with 1 to 4 edits] on 2018-09-01. From these I have the feeling that most of the "editors with 1 to 4 edits" are anonymous editors, but I cannot be sure that there would be around 10k registered user with 1 to 4 edits.) As these metrics (and their change in time) are important for editor recruiting and retention, I am wondering if there was a feature request already for this combined splits on Phabricator? [[User:Samat|Samat]] ([[User talk:Samat|talk]]) 22:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC) |
::{{ping|Milimetric (WMF)}} thank you for your answer! I wanted to know what is the typical edit number for anonymous editors and until how many edits can a newly registered user survive, but for that I missed a ''combined'' option where I could split the anonymous/registered editors by activity level :) Therefore I tried to find out if I could derive an estimation from the current stats. (In your example there was around [https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|editor_type~anonymous 36k anonymous editors] and around [https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal|line|2-Year|activity_level~1..4-edits 45k editors with 1 to 4 edits] on 2018-09-01. From these I have the feeling that most of the "editors with 1 to 4 edits" are anonymous editors, but I cannot be sure that there would be around 10k registered user with 1 to 4 edits.) As these metrics (and their change in time) are important for editor recruiting and retention, I am wondering if there was a feature request already for this combined splits on Phabricator? [[User:Samat|Samat]] ([[User talk:Samat|talk]]) 22:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC) |
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::: Yes, definitely, we have this request: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183316. When we implement that, combining splits/filters will be possible. But right now that's low priority compared to the many other things we have to attend to, so you may not want to wait. If so, you can get data directly from the API, which is a little more flexible. For your example, here are, I think!, the queries you would need: |
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:::* https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/editors/aggregate/fr.wikipedia.org/anonymous/all-page-types/1..4-edits/monthly/2016071300/2018111300 |
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:::* https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/metrics/editors/aggregate/fr.wikipedia.org/user/all-page-types/1..4-edits/monthly/2016071300/2018111300 |
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::: This says that for the most recent month available, there are 36812 anon editors and 13799 registered editors, but do double check my work and let me know if you have trouble figuring out the way the API works (if you put in a wrong value, it should show you the list of allowed values, and don't worry you can't break it :)) [[User:Milimetric (WMF)|Milimetric (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Milimetric (WMF)|talk]]) 21:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC) |
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== Bining of stats == |
== Bining of stats == |
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@Milimetric (WMF): is it correct that the term Editors includes the registered and anonymous editors as well? (I suppose that category of "Editors with 1 to 4 edits" mainly means edits by the anonymous editors.) Samat (talk) 09:25, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, one way to know what parts the whole is made up of is to look at the Filter and Split section. In the case of editors, you can see that there's an option to split by editor type: https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/fr.wikipedia.org/contributing/editors/normal%7Cline%7C2-Year%7Ceditor_type~anonymous*group-bot*name-bot*user. And the parts you can choose to include/exclude are anonymous, registered user, registered user in the "bot" group (group-bot), and registered user with a name that looks like a "bot" (name-bot). We'll be adding some of these explanations to tool-tips when you hover over the text, when we work on this task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177950. Hope this helps, sorry I'm slow at seeing wiki notifications :) Milimetric (WMF) (talk) 17:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Milimetric (WMF): thank you for your answer! I wanted to know what is the typical edit number for anonymous editors and until how many edits can a newly registered user survive, but for that I missed a combined option where I could split the anonymous/registered editors by activity level :) Therefore I tried to find out if I could derive an estimation from the current stats. (In your example there was around 36k anonymous editors and around 45k editors with 1 to 4 edits on 2018-09-01. From these I have the feeling that most of the "editors with 1 to 4 edits" are anonymous editors, but I cannot be sure that there would be around 10k registered user with 1 to 4 edits.) As these metrics (and their change in time) are important for editor recruiting and retention, I am wondering if there was a feature request already for this combined splits on Phabricator? Samat (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, definitely, we have this request: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183316. When we implement that, combining splits/filters will be possible. But right now that's low priority compared to the many other things we have to attend to, so you may not want to wait. If so, you can get data directly from the API, which is a little more flexible. For your example, here are, I think!, the queries you would need:
- This says that for the most recent month available, there are 36812 anon editors and 13799 registered editors, but do double check my work and let me know if you have trouble figuring out the way the API works (if you put in a wrong value, it should show you the list of allowed values, and don't worry you can't break it :)) Milimetric (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Milimetric (WMF): thank you for your answer! I wanted to know what is the typical edit number for anonymous editors and until how many edits can a newly registered user survive, but for that I missed a combined option where I could split the anonymous/registered editors by activity level :) Therefore I tried to find out if I could derive an estimation from the current stats. (In your example there was around 36k anonymous editors and around 45k editors with 1 to 4 edits on 2018-09-01. From these I have the feeling that most of the "editors with 1 to 4 edits" are anonymous editors, but I cannot be sure that there would be around 10k registered user with 1 to 4 edits.) As these metrics (and their change in time) are important for editor recruiting and retention, I am wondering if there was a feature request already for this combined splits on Phabricator? Samat (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Bining of stats
See Research talk:Newly registered user#Bining of new users, this has the same problems. — Jeblad 14:45, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Nope, it is called "split by activity levels". — Jeblad 16:30, 31 October 2018 (UTC)