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For those unaware, a user has placed a "bounty" on this page to request it to be improved until it gets Featured Article status. Just a note. Hooper (talk) 16:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was looking around the web for what the total area for Kentucky should be, and it's not matching up with the number here. Strangely enough, though, the number is not even the same across sources. Does anyone know a definitive source for total area as well as other state statistics? Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 15:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Kentucky's website, "Kentucky ranks 37th in land size, with 39,732 square miles (102,907 square kilometers)." I would use this figure for the total area as it comes from Kentucky's official website (http://travel.ky.gov/about/facts/facts.htm), accessed 19 December 2008, which I would believe to be the authority on Kentucky's statistics. Hope this helps. BEARCATVISION (talk) 02:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Upon further review, I noticed that List of U.S. states and territories by area uses 2000 Census information as its standard. So, for consistency, I updated the article with those numbers. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 19:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I simply wanted to sugggest that giving this incident a full paragraph, representing approximately 2/3 of the air transportation section (in other words, twice as much is written about this one incident than about all other air transportation combined), might be undue weight? Cmadler (talk) 16:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. If anything just the first sentence of that paragraph should stay in this article. --Rividian (talk) 17:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have gone ahead and changed it. It could probably be cut down some more, but I made what seemed like a pretty easy cut. I also corrected the name of the flight. Cmadler (talk) 18:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, the description/definition of "melungeons" as something to the effect of "Native Americans of mixed race" is not accurate. My scant knowledge of this ethnic group recalls that its origins are quite mysterious and that it us widely supposed that they are of European, specifically Iberian, lineage. It would be great if someone conversant on their history could clarify this. Rafi123 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafi123 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi y'all! Just wondering, does anyone have reference or news pertaining to the SAR 21 being use by SWAT team(s) in Kentucky? Please let me know if you do, thanks! ...Dave1185 (talk) 06:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

Just noticed that in the article about Brachiopods^[1] - the official state fossil of Kentucky - it mentions that the fossil was adopted in 1986. The article about Kentucky mentions it was in 1985.

Does anyone know which date is correct?

122.57.34.41 (talk) 09:37, 15 October 2008 (UTC)June[reply]

The correct date is July 15, 1986. See Kentucky Revised Statutes, 2.082. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 14:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Under the "Geography" section is this sentence: "Kentucky is the only U.S. state to have a non-contiguous part exist as an exclave surrounded by other states." This is not true. New York has two exclaves: Liberty and Ellis islands, which are completely surrounded by New Jersey. So the sentence could be rephrased to read: "Kentucky is one of only two U.S. states (the other is New York) to have a non-contiguous part existing as an exclave completely surrounded by other states." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.184.176.43 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The other uses tag says "This article is about the U.S. state Commonwealth of Kentucky". This wording could be somewhat confusing. Using "Commonwealth" here also leads to confusion that Kentucky is somehow "not a state" or different from the other states. Would it not be better to simply say "the US state of Kentucky"? Archons (talk) 00:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having grown up in Cincinnati, I know that being a "Commonwealth" is a matter of great pride to many Kentuckians and it gave the "Tri-State" media a convenient alternative way to refer to Kentucky ("down in The Commonwealth today . . ..

You might as well ask Louisianians to to stop calling their primary governmental subdivisions parishes and start calling them counties. I only searched in the window to the right, but there appears to be no discussion of the difference between a commonwealth and a state in Wikipedia, so this appeared to be as good an explanation as any:

http://www.kdla.ky.gov/resources/kycommonwealth.htm

So, in the end, it's just a synonym, but it's synonyms that make our language interesting. 72.160.118.81 (talk) 03:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.118.81 (talk) 03:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kentucky is officially called the Commonwealth of Kentucky. It is a tribute to our heritage and history. --Kentucky1333 (talk) 07:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up Kentucky Government; deleted contents covered under "Main Articles" to assist in making this page shorter as flagged; a climate page should be created to further limit the overall page contents. --Kentucky1333 (talk) 07:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This should be a section of its own in order to make the overall page easier to read and navigate. --Kentucky1333 (talk) 08:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Mason Dixon line is symbolic to the Ohio River. The Ohio River is the boundry line of the Northern and Southern states. I am not even sure if Ohio and Indiana should be Midwest, because the west does not offically begin until Missouri and they are well east of that. I think Indiana, Ohio, Michigan and the others in that regin are simply Northern or Northeastern states. If California is far west and New York is far east--The midwest would no way be Ohio! Geographically, Kentucky is a Southern State, just as Virginia is. Actually, Virginia is farther north than Kentucky.

I think people confuse Kentucky's civil war status with that of her geography--It was a border state during the war because it was neutral-divided. The border status was not given to Kentucky until the war as to define it. A perfect example was that Union soldiers from Kentucky objected strongly to be called Yankees--they considered themselves "Southern Unionist" as many diaries and their own written words note.

Our governor attends the Southern Governors Confederence, he does not attend the Midwest one. Kentucky is in Southern Living magazine, not Midwest Living version. UK is in the SEC and actually started the confederence. I could go on and on...The great Southern Exposition was held in Louisville in the late 1800s. There is a monument in Louisville near the Galthouse that states-First skyscrapper in the South. So, I am not impressed when people say Kentucky is a Midwest state. Perhaps those who live in Cincinatti or this new Kentuckiana (which is crap and has ruined Louisville identity) have helped bring this Midwest thing to light for Kentucky. The personality of most Kentuckians reflect that of the south--The accent, food connections of fried chicken, gravy and biscuits, etc..etc.., songs, music, personalities, landmarks-"Niagra of the South" waterfall, The Derby with Burgoo ...The cook for Confederate John Hunt Morgan invented the dish and and Mint Julieps.

I guess to put it plan and simple--Take someone from Kentucky, who is born and has thgeir roots here and stand them against someone from Tennessee and a person from Michigan and let them all talk and see who the Kentckian fits in better with. I can tell you flat out, it would be Tennessee. I know it would be for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madisonhenry46 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is clear on this matter. It says it is essentially a Southern state, but doesn't disregard the idea that sometimes Kentucky is regarded as Midwestern, at least in some areas of the state. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 15:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that the sources are against it being in the Midwest. Here are some books that define the Midwest: [1] [2], [3]. Abductive (reasoning) 01:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody disputes that prevailing sources say Kentucky is a Southern state. But the counterargument of a minority of sources cannot be ignored. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:13, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure it can, per WP:UNDUE. I cannot read what "North American Midwest: A Regional Geography" says, and "Midwestern Industrialization and the American Manufacturing Belt in the Nineteenth Century" say it included some Kentucky cities along the Ohio for purposes of comparing the Midwest to the rest of the "Manufacturing Belt" that this one author, in a primary source, defines for his purposes. Therefore I am going to remove this source from the already weak support for the sentence as a gross misuse of a source. Abductive (reasoning) 23:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not undue at all. Kentucky does indeed have midwestern aspects and this is why it's sometimes considered midwestern. If one cannot absorb a particular resource, that doesn't mean it should be removed. Also, let us beware of POV pushing. Nobody is saying that Kentucky is a midwestern state. It is indeed southern, but only sometimes thought of as midwestern. If you think it's just southern, that's fine, but we have to write articles based on facts, not feelings. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 03:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source does not say "Kentucky is a midwestern state" or "Kentucky is sometimes considered to be a Midwestern state". It says that for statistical purposes, some Kentucky cities were included with the midwestern states for the purposes of a study on manufacturing. I will again remove this source, since it's inclusion is POV pushing, and an abuse of the source. Please do not continue with your WP:OWNership of this article. Two people at least have noted that Kentucky does not seem to be a Midwestern state, and you would be advised to find sources that actually say it, not that require WP:SYNTHESIS to uphold your position. Do you have the text of the claim from the other source? Could you please reproduce it here? Abductive (reasoning) 04:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, Google searching for "kentucky is a midwest state" or "kentucky is a midwestern state" gets only this talk page, a couple of blogs were people scoff at the idea, and urban dictionary. Searching for "kentucky is in the midwest" gets a joke about the New Madrid fault moving it into the Midwest, and a half dozen more blogs, again scoffing at the notion. Searching by "kentucky in the midwest" gets about 60 instances of the term, mostly to do with sporting teams playing games in the midwest, or KU being in the midwest basketball regionals. Abductive (reasoning) 04:20, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know where the center on Kentucky is ?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.250.66.165 (talk) 18:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]