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I do not know the procedure for this wikiprojecct, which is why I am inquiring... I have noticed that some literary articles are attached to national wikiprojects (Queen of Spades to Russia, for instance). Does the same hold true for Wikiproject UK? I am asking as I have recently got the article on She up to GA and plan to take it to FA review shortly, but am just dotting the i's and crossing the t's. Should this article be linked to this project, or does this project prefer only to keep to historical, political, etc. articles?

In 2010, the article "Mandate Palestine" was forked out of "British Mandate for Palestine" article, becoming an identical article since. Due to the almost complete overlap (technically both articles describe a former Mandatory geopolitical entity of Palestine under British rule, which has only one article in other languages) and ongoing confusion (some insisted that "British Mandate for Palestine" is more the name of a 1922 document and not a country), i propose to merge Mandate Palestine into British Mandate for Palestine, and make an additional article named British Mandate for Palestine (document) to prevent confusion between the document and the geopolitical entity. Please vote with a proper reasoning here.Greyshark09 (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Mandate_Palestine#Merge. Keith D (talk) 14:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please vote on the new name here Talk:British_Mandate_for_Palestine#Requested_move_-_please_vote. Oncenawhile (talk) 22:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, this debate has become quite complex - more thoughtful voices in the debate would be greatly appreciated. Oncenawhile (talk) 01:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Australia women's national water polo team recently played (and have two more) test matches against the Great Britain women's national water polo team. It would be great if some one could create an article about the Great Britain team. At three of the matches, some videos and pictures were taken. It would be fantastic if some one from Great Britain could identify the players and edit the descriptions of the photos to say who they are. The women's team qualified for the 2012 Summer Olympics and would have qualified even with out the free pass because of being the host.

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Thanks for the help and best of luck to your team come time for the 2012 Summer Olympics. :) --LauraHale (talk) 08:35, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do not know if this will be useful but there are 3 videos on the BBC article that may help with identification. Keith D (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This might help http://www.swimming.org/britishswimming/water-polo/womens-senior-squad/ MilborneOne (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If some one from the UK could look at the pictures and try to determine who they are based on the links provided, that would be fantastically helpful. I know there are a few people in the UK who want to try to get Olympic related coverage for British sport improved so in the future, Brits could have a chance at getting press passes to attend (2012 out of the question). Getting more pictures and labeling them and using the pictures, creating articles and telling sport federations you're doing this can help. I'm not going to do the identification myself. :( I'm having a hard enough time with the Australians. --LauraHale (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are profiles, with photos, at [1], but "look at the pictures and try to determine who they are based on the links provided" sounds a bit like WP:OR. PamD 08:19, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are Brits who would prefer Australians improve content related to them. If you are unable or unwilling to identify the individuals yourself, could some one in GB please give Great Britain Water Polo a call and ask for their assistance in identifying members of their national side? I was under the impression several members of WM-UK were at one point actively seeking to try to get press passes for Wikipedians and Wikimedians to attend the Olympic Games. Given that situation, it is rather disappointing that no one is able to identify players or call up the national association and ask for their assistance. This type of work makes a good case study to encourage women's organisations's to get involved with Wikimedia projects. Keenly sad to see a fantastic opportunity to improve female British related content related to one of the biggest events in the country this year not happen during Women's History Month. :( --LauraHale (talk)

Also, many of these are numbers. If you can match the numbers from the cap with the player name for this series, that would be great. I don't have access to many British sport sources. --LauraHale (talk) 09:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CAMRA was the original name of the Campaign for Real Ale article, until it was moved in December 2005‎, and a redirect was left behind. In Feb this year a user created a disamb page, offering readers the choice of going to Campaign for Real Ale or Canberra Academy of Music and Related Arts. The redirect was restored under WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and a hatnote placed on Campaign for Real Ale, pointing to Canberra Academy of Music and Related Arts. Another user has objected to the restoration of the redirect. Evidence was then provided of the high traffic to Campaign for Real Ale, and the low traffic to Canberra Academy of Music and Related Arts via CAMRA; evidence has also been provided for the high global visibility and recognition of the CAMRA acronym with the Campaign for Real Ale. Time has been provided for counter arguments and evidence. See discussion on Talk:CAMRA. The page is now somewhat unstable due to the dispute. Opinions and comments would be helpful. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 16:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2012_February_27#CAMRA. PamD 08:14, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The page British Gas was a disambig page, with the article about the company at British Gas plc. It had been like this since 2006. A few days ago, a recently registered user (Fox_starfish) did a cut and paste move, to move the article over the disambig. This was reverted, but they have repeated the move. Another user (Medic463), has suddenly appeared in support. There is some discussion at Talk:Centrica, comments welcome. --Vclaw (talk) 02:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

People reading this who are interested in Wikipedia's coverage of literary subjects might like to weigh in on the topic of what to do about Petrarch's and Shakespeare's Sonnets (AfD discussion) at its discussion. Uncle G (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A proposal to rescind Troubles-realated restrictions has been made here. --RA (talk) 21:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An outside view has been requested here on talk Northern Ireland. A wider view of comments are also invited. --RA (talk) 11:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's a rather shambolic chunk of text here, trying to define use of the term "High School" in E&W. Someone who knows a lot about the education system might like to tidy it up. PamD 08:35, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do scholars of various subjects but living/teaching/writing in the UK fall in the scope of this wikiproject? — Preceding unsigned comment added by InMyHumbleOpinion (talk • contribs) 03:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A new editor added a huge block of unreffed text to the Edward George Turner article. It needs tidying up and checking to see if it is a copyvio. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:07, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted, a quick Google turned up this website with posts from 2007 that seem to have been copied (duplication detector tool). Nev1 (talk) 14:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I hope those with an interest in WW2 or military history will consider looking at the Western Betrayal article which as it stands now is largely aimed at blaming Britain for everything that went wrong in Europe from 1939 on. Can anyone write an alternative POV or neutralise the whole article such that British perspectives are given some currency? Pultusk (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Came across this article of Colonel John Vaughan. Shouldn't the military rank "Colonel" be excluded from the title? I thought of being bold & moving it. But discovered many John Vaughans and though it best to dump on you people to decide. Enjoy! §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 11:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've boldly moved him to John Vaughan (East India Company officer). PamD 12:04, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article's notability is not strong enough as a stand-alone article. I'm proposing a merger to Musicians of the RMS Titanic. Feel free to discuss at destination's talk page. --George Ho (talk) 03:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that a group of long-standing articles such as Wallace Hartley (created 2005) (See history havde been merged by User:George Ho and User:Dondegroovily, 2 1/2 hours after a merge proposal. PamD 07:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles that a manual of style for UK-related articles should be established. Perhaps a vote at this page as to whether or not one is required, would be a first step. Comments please. Van Speijk (talk) 13:42, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear what has been suggested, by an editor who feels he is not getting his own way, is not a UK manual of style but a style manual which would be used to remove Northern Ireland from the current WP:IMOS. I would be opposed to such a MOS on these ground and also feel the the UK has no need for it's own MOS. Bjmullan (talk) 13:46, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So why does Ireland have to have one then? Van Speijk (talk) 13:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you talk that question to the appropriate notice board. Bjmullan (talk) 13:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fair enough to me. I can't see a reason why not. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:13, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps someone who is in favour can explain why a UK MOS is required, with diffs of part edits where it would be of help? Bjmullan (talk) 19:35, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all!

I've just started as the Wikipedian in Residence at the British Library; I'll be here for six months, until the end of October. I'm still in the process of settling in and meeting with people here to discuss possible projects, but if you've any suggestions for collaboration, please do let me know.

We've currently got two events in the calendar:

• World War I Editathon, 16 June - organised jointly with JISC
• GLAM-WIKI 2012, 14-15 September - conference hosted by WMUK and the British Library

and I hope we'll be able to organise more community events this summer along the lines of the past backstage tours and editing sessions. If you'd like to be notified about further developments, either drop me an email or sign up to the participants list here.

Thanks, Andrew Gray (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on your new role. Secretlondon (talk) 14:46, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A template is now available, for linking from articles about places, to their entries in the Domesday Book, on Open Domesday. See {{OpenDomesday}}. Pages using it are in Category:OpenDomesday. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neat! A whole four hours after the presentation, I note... Andrew Gray (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Sorry it took so long ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Wikipedia:English Wikipedians' notice board has been nominated for deletion. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 04:03, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:English Wikipedians' notice board -- 70.24.251.208 (talk) 23:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:English Wikipedians' notice board (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been redirected to Wikipedia:UK Wikipedians' notice board. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 23:28, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just now i have asked WikiProject England (WP England talk: British, English, etc ...) much about the use of "British", "English", etc, in reference to persons --England and persons seeming the best place to start. Skimming the noticeboard I see nothing similar among the agenda here, except tangential and inactive BISLES. But I feel sure that you know where this has been discussed a lot.

Here are a couple of quotations from my long post WP England talk: British, English, etc ....
> One good example category: Category:British children's writers now contains 227 articles --almost all biographies of what is says-- while its English, Scottish, and Welsh subcategories contain 434, 37, and 19 articles. If I tool correctly (Combine wiki-Categories), 19, 1, and 10(!) of the latter overlap with the British.

> Should "British" be a preliminary and residual description, label, category? ... in effect "pending further research"

--P64 (talk) 20:44, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Start with WP:UKNATIONALS.

By the way, it's hopefully just a typo but you appear to be equating British with English above ("British children's writers ... its British, Scottish, and Welsh subcategories"). Sorting that possible misconception out would be a good place to start. Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Next day, I have restored wiki-links to my self-quotation (green) and twice abbreviated the long linkname. Yes, English of course as context shows. Thanks.

The tool Combine wiki-Categories has many uses. I learned it yesterday and know that some others will welcome it. --P64 (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've redirected Henry Chichester, 2nd Baron Templemore to Harry Chichester, 2nd Baron Templemore as all links appear to refer to the same person. Can an expect confirm please? Did this person go by two names (Harry's article doesn't mention the name Henry), are links to Henry incorrect, or are there two nearly identical but distinct people here? - TB (talk) 10:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Politics of the British Isles, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. --RA (talk) 08:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedians here may (or may not) want to contribute to a disussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Politics in the British Isles. --RA (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A review of the deletion of the above article is taking place at: Wikipedia:Deletion review#Politics_in_the_British_Isles. --RA (talk) 08:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Due to contentious editing at Template:American cuisine, this has resulted in the deletion of the image at British cuisine template. You may wish to discuss whether to keep the image or not, but someone should watch the template to see if further contentious editing at American cuisine results in spillover to your template. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 11:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A merger of these two article has been proposed and is taking place here. --RA (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Air pollution in the United Kingdom needs work. I split it out from another article a couple of years ago but it has not progressed very far. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this in, but I'm willing to get rebuked, so here it goes: I have just recently noticed that Talk:Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji is not related in any way to this project. Is this justified? I'm also unsure if Sorabji could fall within the scope not only of this project, but also WikiProject England. Sorabji's mother was English, his father was a Parsi from Bombay. However, Sorabji denied the English ancestry of his mother and had close to zero affinity for English/British culture.

Given Sorabji's biography, he may be of interest to the Dorset and Essex projects. As a person, he is known mainly for his compositions, and less so for his music criticism.

While my "questions" may seem elementary, I have very little knowledge on projects in general, or this one in particular. Thank you for your help in advance. --Toccata quarta (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An earlier requested-move survey generated lots of controversy and an arbitration case. Therefore, this one is being posted here and in many other places, to gather a very wide range of opinions outside of the Scotland and Australia WikiProjects.

A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation)#Requested_move, which proposes to move:

• Perth → Perth, Western Australia
• Perth, Scotland → Perth, Perthshire
• Perth (disambiguation) → Perth

Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]