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Guild of Copy Editors January 2012 backlog elimination drive Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors January 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here is your end-of-drive wrap-up newsletter. Participation 45 people signed up for this drive this time; of these, 35 participated. This is similar to the number of editors who helped out in November. Thanks to all who participated! Barnstars will be distributed in the near future. Progress report Recent drives have been focusing on the oldest three months in the backlog. During this drive we were successful in eliminating our target months—July, August, and September 2010—from the queue, and there are less than 300 articles remaining from 2010. End-of-drive results and barnstar information can be found here. When working on the backlog, please keep in mind that there are options other than copy editing available; some articles may be candidates for deletion, or may not be suitable for copy editing at this time for other reasons. The {{GOCEreviewed}} tag can be placed on any article you find to be totally uneditable, and you can nominate for deletion any that you discover to be copyright violations or completely unintelligible. If you need help deciding what to do, please contact any of the coordinators. Thank you for participating in the January 2012 drive! All contributions are appreciated. Our next copy edit drive will be in March. Your drive coordinators – The Utahraptor talk, S Masters (talk), Diannaa (Talk), Stfg (Talk), Sp33dyphil (talk), and Dank (talk)

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter. Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us! Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far. Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers. Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk) To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

Hi Demiurge1000. Wow, what a job that is! Would you like me to archive the GOCE request for it now, or is it still active? Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 09:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, yes, I discovered there was a reason other copyeditors had been avoiding it for months :) Yes, still active, aiming to finish by the end of this month. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:14, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With much delay, thank you so much for the great job in copy editing Dacians! Not an easy article to (copy) edit at all. Best --Codrin.B (talk) 09:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You could call me an administrator of sorts of the Counter Vandalism Unit Academy (CVUA), but me and Theopolisme are known in the academy as coordinators. {{tick}}ing can be done by any CVUA instructor if they meet the requirements, but if they're close, but not there coordinators make the final call. For Irondomes any instructor could have ticked him. I was just the first one there and curious. Hope that helps Dan653 (talk) 22:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really puzzled as to why you posted this about fifteen minutes after my removing my misplaced posting. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because your "misplaced" posting was directed to me. I was expecting something on my talk page after you removed it since you said it was "misplaced". "Misplaced" is very different than "wrong user" so I was surprised that you hadn't posted your question somewhere else since it was "misplaced". After not recieving anything I decided it would be best to explain to you what I did. Dan653 (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm still a bit lost as to why it was necessary to explain anything, still less about you and someone else being "administrator[s] of sorts", but perhaps best to move on. Thank you for the feedback. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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right after I ec'ed with you. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 10:51, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Demiurge1000, I have seen your comment on the signpost report on Bangla Wikipedia readers survey. I am intersted to know the user who expressed his/her feelings that way and would like to find out more if I can help. Could you please introduce me to him/her? Apperciating your help, thanks! Tanvir Rahman (talk) 11:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm afraid I don't have any direct contact with them. For similar future queries, I will also suggest that they ask on your talk page, if that's OK? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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• Nice! And all thanks (mostly) to Crakkerjakk! Now we are all just a little more WP:VEGAN :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's nothing personal. I also used the same image to replace a non-free cast image that I, myself uploaded for The Monroes article. All indications are that the replacement image was distributed to the media and without copyright notice prior to 1978 for the purposes of publication. If I thought there was anything "dodgy" about the copyright status of the image, I wouldn't have replaced the non-free image I'd originally placed on The Monroes page either. Whenever I add a valid image to Commons, I always check to see if there are non-free files that it can be used to replace (including, but not limited to, non-free images I've uploaded myself). It's not any reflection on which image I think is "better". It's simply a case of Commons images that convey the same essential information (when available) are viewed as preferable to non-free files. The reason I replaced this particular non-free image in the Tammy Locke article was that I've seen this type of rationale used for non-free files in the past and it never holds up as a valid rationale for use in biographies of living persons. I actually agree with the basic argument of the rationale – an adult photograph of a former child actor from 30 or 40 or 50+ years ago simply does not convey the same information that an image of the subject as a child would – however, this is not viewed as a valid rationale for the use of non-free images in bios of living persons. You can feel free to revert my edit to the Tammy Locke page, but I believe that if/when an admin eventually comes across this file, it will almost certainly be nominated for deletion (unless the subject passes away in the meantime). Again, it's nothing personal, I just simply believed it was best to swap the non-free file for a valid Commons image before it was nominated for deletion. If you believe the non-free file can stand up to an eventual nomination for deletion, then don't let me stand in your way. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 10:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, no, you misunderstand my slightly tongue-in-cheek edits - there's no problem at all. I've never been quite 100% happy with the quality, nor the fair use status of the child actor image of Locke, so your alternative image saves me from having to work out what to do about it. Having said that, from my point of view it's a valid instance of fair use under the policy - it's not necessarily the case that it would've been immediately nominated for deletion "when an admin eventually comes across this file". I've been using Tammy Locke as an example page when teaching new editors referencing and such (and sometimes even fair use image policy!), so it's been seen by hundreds of admins.

Conversely, I do still regard the replacement image as "dodgy" - new editors regularly offer me former publicity shots accompanied by the claim "it's not copyrighted!", but I have never assisted or encouraged use of these as "free" images. There's not only the rather obscure nature of the claim of being "free", but also the limitations that prevent such images from being used on large numbers of major other-language versions of Wikipedia. Incidentally, the German Wikipedia seems to have an article about Locke but not about The Monroes; their Locke article, of course, uses the properly free photo of Locke as an adult, but neither the fair use child actor image nor your replacement for it.

The publicity photo replacement is a nicely detailed high quality image. In fact it's quite possible that Locke herself sent me a copy of it when I was creating the article, under the "I'm sure it's not copyrighted!" viewpoint. I'll ask if she has any more that might be useful. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I thought you were being sarcastic when you cited the Vegan parable, so I misunderstood your post. It's true these types of Commons images cannot be used on several wikis that don't recognize the rule of the shorter term (including the German wikipedia), but on Commons, the status of this type of image is clear. The documentation provided for this particular image shows that it was distributed to The Chicago Tribune sometime between 1966–1967 for the purposes of publication (a very different thing than a studio image from a former child star's "personal collection"). You may believe that this is "dodgy", but there are featured publicity images on Commons with much less documentation than this one. I'm actually surprised to hear that hundreds of admins saw the fair-use image and it was never removed. Like I said - I actually agree with the "former child star" rationale (and I even defended other editor's use of the rationale in the past), but I've never once seen it stand up to a nomination for deletion and the images inevitably end up being removed, without exception (again, unless the subject is deceased). --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 06:12, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where 'a studio image from a former child star's "personal collection"' comes from, as there are no images of that nature involved. Anyway, I don't use promotion processes on Commons as the arbiter of whether an image is as freely licensed as I'd like it to be. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for participating in my RfA. I really appreciate your insight. As an aside, I've never been aware of the adoption subpage you linked to, but now I'm very curious to see how much policy knowledge I really have. I think I'm going to take some of those tests and see how I do. It might help me in the future.

Anyways, take care. =) Kurtis (talk) 14:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and I'm glad you're making constructive use of criticism. One thing to keep in mind is that the adoption course is far from being a guide to everything an RfA candidate would need to know. In fact, it's quite a struggle just trying to give a reasonable overview of things an ordinary editor might need to know. So always be aware there's a lot more hidden nuances out there. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Like all too many of your fellow editors you appear to be the 6th form prefect wearing all the badges (easily earned with so much spare time) while behaving like a 4th form bully. There are decent, balanced editors out there without self esteem issues. You, sadly, are not in their number. The sooner you and your kind are located and removed.. the better for Wikipedia. In the meantime, pop down to the "a life" store and get one. All the time you spend on Wikipedia. Your life really must lack color. Orbiston (talk) 09:16, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, we might have to keep you around, you're kind of cute. Do please let me know when the book comes out; judging by your performance so far, it should be an absolutely fascinating read ;)

A little tip for you. Google "wikipediocracy forum" and you will find some people who share a great many of your views about Wikipedia. (Some of them are writing books about problems with Wikipedia too, and are happy to share parts of the research process.) In particular, there's a discussion thread right now entitled "On the moral bankruptcy of Wikipedia’s anonymous admins" that covers issues that seem to be close to your heart. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:12, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You were helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.228.62 (talk) 20:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! I'm glad that you have raised these issues about who wrote what about Zeus, because it does seem that some of the material on Wikipedia about the subject is indeed incorrect. And therefore needs fixing! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly I believe It's true. Because more then one person said it. However this is not heard of to most people. So I think that someone should give me the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.228.62 (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Remember me? Puppyonpedia. think its funny to ban me? you jerk. duck you. have fun in hades — Preceding unsigned comment added by Puppupup (talk • contribs) 21:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Puppy! How are you? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the action you have taken over this article. I had expressed my concerns here, but you have taken it where it needs to be. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm slightly puzzled by it appearing in an apparently respectable magazine if it's entirely a hoax, but either way it looks to be one of a not uncommon class of WP articles that ultimately don't meet WP:GNG. Odd that the entrepreneur hasn't turned up at the AfD, though! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering what to do about Dan Roodt, but I see you've been cleaning it up a bit - thanks. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:09, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, seems to have plenty of eyes on it now. (Or indeed, has turned into a bit of a battleground, albeit a small and polite one.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW throughout my 30-year career as a lecturer in undergrad and graduate schools, when asked about my job, I have always referred to myself as a teacher trainer. I feel the word instructor in a CVU/Wikipedia context could evoke some notions of responsibility or authority, which here of course is not the case. There are of course many uses of the word 'instructor' such as in driving instructor or flying instructor, but where at Wikipedia there is an extreme effort to avoid injuring sensibilities or giving a false impression, I often thought the word 'coach' to be more apt - but then there would be sure to be some who would confuse the term with long distance travel in the same way as those who would not understand the role of running shoes when learning to revert vandalism. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:42, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the concern over "trainer" was more just an attempt to check out every possible flaw before going ahead with an idea, which is perhaps no bad thing. "Coach" is indeed a potentially useful alternative. There's always the risk of baffling people with unnecessary levels of complexity - it remains something of a mystery to me why I'm sometimes "mentoring" an editor while the activities involved in doing so are exactly the same (excepting a few userboxes and sign-up pages) as when I'm "adopting" an editor. I guess the bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy, but there's always at least some sort of useful activity behind all the labels. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Demi! I've been working at DRN for a few weeks and have found BLPs to be my niche. I see that you are quite active there. Do you have any suggestions on how to deal with BLP issues from your experience? Also, is there a volunteer sign-up page (we have one at DRN)? Thanks, Electric Catfish 23:03, 30 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Here are some suggestions that spring to mind. First, consider the section "A thought on articles that mention living persons" on my userpage. Keeping that in mind, it's best to take the view that we err on the side of caution, i.e. against including negative information about living people unless it's solidly sourced in multiple properly reliable sources, and it's relevant to a properly written biography of the person. WP:UNDUE often applies in that context. Often people will disagree - don't edit war with them, just take it back to BLPN - but a careful reading of WP:BLP (which is the relevant policy) really does support that approach.

Also keep WP:DOLT in mind. (I have zero tolerance for legal threats, so often the threatener gets blocked but the material to which they object gets removed anyway. We don't keep negative material about someone on Wikipedia just to punish them for being an unpleasant individual, whether in real life or on-wiki.)

On the subject of sources, it's fine to source trivial positive facts like "X won Y prize" (assuming it's not a booby prize) to things like The Daily Mirror, but it's not fine to source negative BLP information to such sources. Again, you will find people disagree with this, and want to use celebrity gossip rags (mostly online) for negative material about celebrities. But they shouldn't. Just because something is true and widely reported, doesn't mean it's appropriate in an encyclopedia.

First case study is Ina Garten - take a look on the talk page and its history, and the article history, to see the consensus on what is not going to be included (unless it somehow becomes a far more a significant part of her career than it was.)

Second case study is this. Read the source, and work out why the edit is not just irrelevant to her career, but also substantially misrepresents what Penny actually says in the source itself, even though it quotes her directly. There's a lot of subtle misrepresentation like this that goes on, and it's worth re-reading WP:SYNTH (particularly the examples, which are rather good) to see some sorts of synthesis that are not acceptable.

Personally I watchlist almost everything that comes up at BLPN, because if it's been an issue once then it will probably be one again. (After the semi-protection wears off, or whatever). An exception is that anything that already has more than a page of discussion at BLPN, probably already has enough eyes on it. (Often a debate about someone's religion, race or ethnicity.)

That's some thoughts to get started - there will probably be some more when I get some more time.

I'm somewhat active at DRN, but never saw the point in the sign-up pages, so haven't signed up. I don't think BLPN has anything similar, probably for that reason. There are some lists of pages to watchlist, somewhere. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for the advice! Electric Catfish 18:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Demiurge1000 I have edited article "" OM PRAKASH CHAUTALA"" twice, but my content were removed by wiki. The biography which was addede before 9th sept 2012 for article "" OM PRAKASH CHAUTALA"" was totally fake. Supremo Om Prakash Chautala is the very famous name in my country. He is my Grandfather in relation. What ever contents I provided yesterday or today was correct. you can check my own website, which i have launched for our political party, i.e. www.joininld.com My Name is Man Mohan Deswal, domain www.joininld.com is registered on my name , can check on www.who.is or if you want take content from my website and display for ""Om Prakash Chautala"" if you allow me to change the content again , then please give me the right procedure.

with regards

Man Mohan Deswal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manmohandeswal (talk • contribs) 09:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a place to post original or official biographies of people that you know. The place to post the official biography is on your own website.

Also, you cannot copy and paste information from another website (even if you own the website) directly to Wikipedia, as you have done, because the copied text does not meet Wikipedia's license requirements.

Finally, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so articles must be both neutrally worded, and backed by citations to independent reliable sources (for example newspapers). Language like "so as to provide justice to the people" is not neutral.

An example of an article about an Indian politician that meets Wikipedia's guidelines is Rajinder Kaur Bhattal. Note in particular the use of inline citations, and the contents of the "References" section. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 10:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused by your statement "You've brought a great deal of disappointment" at ANEW. I was against semi protecting and for full protection, and even for giving a strong warning where the vast majority of admins would have simply blocked on site. I have no idea how I could have been more understanding, more patient, or could have assumed "more good faith" in this matter. If anything, Huge's reaction might have demonstrated I assumed too much, as he didn't seem to get that his actions were wrong, necessitating a very strongly worded final warning. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 22:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that was probably an over-reaction on my part. Rightly or wrongly, I felt that a block was the only appropriate response, given the editor's behaviour. Fully protecting the article only brings a halt to the editor's behaviour if that's the only article he edits. But in fact, he's very busy at other BLPs, in fact he appears to mainly edit BLPs. And he's using exactly the same style of edit summary on those other BLPs that he used when reverting the problematic material back into the Berrios BLP ("restore neutral content from verifiable, reliable cited source" crops up many, many times just in the most recent page of his contributions).

I also wonder what the solution would have been if I hadn't reported him at WP:ANEW. Maybe Orlady would have been expected to edit war with him just to get the problematic material out of the BLP.

Maybe your strongly worded warning will be all that it takes, and I'm just too cynical. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I completely respect the fact that you have concerns over my handling. Blocks are cheap, and like I told him, he has used up his "one free" for a while. I tend to think his faith was actually good, even if his execution was completely lousy. I didn't like the semi-protection, which favored him and not the IP, but someone else full protected before I could. All of us can get too emotionally and screw up every now and then. He has been here a long time without incident, enough to earn one "get out of jail free" card. He has now used it. Since this behavior was out of character, so unusual and perhaps fueled by an unreasonable IP, I would rather try to not block him this one time and just see if a strongly worded warning and a little cooling off time will fix it. No one with a clean block record wants a block. Sometimes, once they have been blocked, you no longer have that carrot to hold over them and they feel like there is nothing to lose, so blocking often has the opposite desired effect in edit warring. I try to use blocks sparingly where it is at least arguable that their intentions were honorable. And it is always fine to disagree with me, I'm not the law here, just the janitor, and no matter what I choose, someone will disagree. So I just have to follow my best judgement in each case. I might be completely wrong here, but at least I know (we know) that we tried to solve the problem without being heavy handed, and if it takes blocks next week, he will have no one but himself to blame. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 23:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the very late interjection, but looking at the state of the article now, it's basically a moderately well disguised hatchet job, that also seems to have large amounts of WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASING. This is a mess that will take quite some time to sort out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Respected Demiurge, Good day to you. Thanks for helping to improve the article "Om Prakash Chautala" but some material was improper like ref. JBT scam... I have removed it by editing the article. This ref is not fair... Chautala Ji is a very very kind, helpful, fair personality. He is clean from all kind of scams. He is most famous and coming CHIEF MINISTER of Haryana(INDIA) Plz help me add his image on article. I don't know how to add image on article. I have created image article "Ch. Om Prakash Chautala". There you can find Chautala ji image. Plz insert that image with article "OM Prakash Chautala" I'll be very thankful to you with great regards INDILEOS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indileos (talk • contribs) 03:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, if I may correct your mode of address; I am not respected, I am in fact sleaze boy. Hope that's clear :)

However, the article does not belong to you or your family. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and its contents are freely licensed.

Please read my reply to "Man Mohan Deswal" further up this page, for more information.

I have also replied to an email from either you, or him, about adding a photograph of the person to the Wikipedia article. However, I received no reply to my email. Please email me again if you have an image of the person, and you also own the copyright to that image; or if the person who owns the copyright is willing to freely license that image. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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	... for the great work in copy-editing Dacians. Thank you! Codrin.B (talk) 09:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Codrin! It is fascinating stuff, I first read about the Dacians (or their precursor tribes) in Herodotus when I was very very young. Please do keep on with the efforts to fill out all the missing sections of the article! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Demiurge1000 this article belongs to me and to my family, thats why i am trying to make it 100% accurate. whatever i have added or edited in this article is completely genuine and accurate. Please help me to make the article more genuine. regards Manmohandeswal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manmohandeswal (talk • contribs) 09:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See reply to you or your friend, further up this page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Torchiest! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Demiurge1000, I really appreciate your note. Thank you so much! heather walls (talk) 20:52, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, you have put a lot of work into this, and a few too many times I have played the role of the angry cynical software engineer :) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Sir,

To me it is a serious thing to be accused of lying repeatedly on multiple pages for a silly mistake I made because I am new, not good at formating when I'm upset, and didn't realize that the word "diva" was not allowed to be used. I didn't personally attack anyone, but was accused of attacking a whole "class" of people because I used the word "diva". Then I was accused of intentionally removing a link for "Puritanical" reasons when I was just trying to copy it. But it's hopeless. I understand that now. Respectfully, MathewTownsend (talk) 20:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matthew, sadly here on Wikipedia there are some cliques who like to look after each other "come what may". Your best way of dealing with that? Find a topic area that they're not involved in, and work on articles there. If you stray into their topics they will not forgive you for that, so it's simpler just to steer clear. I hope you'll stay with us.

No, I don't understand the "diva" thing either. But I do know there are a lot of them around. See also WP:DIVA. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please consider reverting this? I don't think it's very helpful, truthful or otherwise. Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 05:58, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Demiurge, I once thought you were admin material. I'm very disappointed. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]