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Here about accountability? see my accountability page.

My real name is Larry Pieniazek and I like LEGO(r) Brand building elements. Feel free to mail me with comments or concerns. I will archive this page if/when there is a need but will not delete comments. I reserve the right to refactor by moving comments under headings, adding headings, and so forth but will never change comment order in a way that changes meaning.

Note: I archive off RfA thank yous separately, I think they're neat!

If you hadn't noticed a vandal put The Beatles up for deletion. As this is clearly vandalism I reverted to the article previous to the notice - however I realise that the notice is probably in the Wiki system and I need an admin to get it removed. I will argue that the lesser evil is to remove the tag from the article to avoid confusion, and then do the business with Wikipedia. I'm copying this note to Kingboyk in case you are busy.LessHeard vanU 22:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kingboyk advices that the above matter has been sorted. I will leave it up to you whether you want to removed these comments.LessHeard vanU 22:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rolling back an obvious vandalism like an AfD on The Beatles is a very good revert, well done. I don't see any reason to remove these comments, all is well. Glad it's sorted. ++Lar: t/c 23:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Lar, may I enlist your serives as my clerk once again? I have requested that Q12 and my non-response to it be refactored out of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2006/Candidate statements/Questions for Crzrussian and onto my talk page - but I don't think it would be appropriate for me to do so myself, for obvious reasons. Could you review this request, and either fulfill it if you think the request appropriate, or state for the record on Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2006/Candidate statements/Questions for Crzrussian that you think the request is not appropriate. I'll defer to your decision on this, unless, for whatever reason, you choose not to serve. Thanks a lot. - crz crztalk 20:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look and either fulfill it or state for the record as you request. Give me a bit of time though. ++Lar: t/c 20:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

sent you an email... thanks! ++Lar: t/c 22:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Humm, I find this an odd request, and I seriously worried with the censoring that User:Crzrussian tries to impose on me by using you as a proxy. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 15:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear, you've found out my secret! I was going to ask you to keep it to yourself, but on further consideration, I beg of you, please take appropriate action! This Guinnog account is way too prolific and I simply cannot maintain the account's image anymore! Sarah Ewart (Talk) 21:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser away, my friend. You won't pin anything on me. Your suspicions are groundless. Sarah, er Guinnog 21:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now how fascinating that you come out with conflicting stories! As to the appropriate action??? hm... ++Lar: t/c 22:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly I am relieved the charade is over. Those suborbital hops on the black stealth aircraft from Oz to Scotland were doing my head in anyway... --Guinnog 22:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oz ?? I've a "fan"/stalker who is apparently trying to convince me that there is no such place as Oz. Are you sure you're not in a fantasy land? Too much Guinness while in flight? ++Lar: t/c 23:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That'll be it likely. Which reminds me, I am still searching for a John Courage photo for you. It might make a nice project award or Barnstar, what do you think? --Guinnog 23:28, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A project award or informal award would both seem good ideas, especially the latter (the use of Courage to denote courageous actions seems apropos). Not sure about it being a barnstar image though. I don't hang out at WP:BEER so couldn't say what they do per se. Now how come you know about that glass of beer I gave Sarah??? :) Oh wait, I know. ++Lar: t/c 23:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A factual correction is a factual correction. That was the equivalent of saying a Ferrari is a French car to me. Sad, eh? :) --Guinnog 00:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, since the suborbital black stealth aircraft are still classified, agents will be by soon to debrief you regarding its disclosure on an unclassified website. Please do not be alarmed by the various assortment of equipment they carry. Thanks! :D ~Kylu (u|t) 00:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's ok. I'll probably know them from training from before I accepted this assignment. Oh no, what am I saying? How do you delete stuff from this crazy thing? Hang on, that's the door... --Guinnog 00:14, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be much more collegial to confine suggestions of wikistalking to user talk or RfA pages, rather than article talk pages, don't you? RoscoHead 21:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's rather rich for you to speak of collegiality, actually. But thanks for your input. ++Lar: t/c 22:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh? Why do you say that? RoscoHead 23:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let's not be coy, Rosco. At least part, of your reason for being here is related to me. You know it, and now you know I know it too, as I have, independently confirmed, for some time. I think that's rather a waste of time and effort on your part, but I guess everyone has to have a hobby. ++Lar: t/c 23:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take your word for it, but I'm still intrigued why you say "I think it's rather rich for you to speak of collegiality"? RoscoHead 23:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not just my word, mind you... As to why: You're stalking me, and not for our mutual amusement based on an existing friendship, as in the example you gave, from an older talk page of mine (interesting that you were able to dredge it up, or that you felt the need to.)... QED. ++Lar: t/c 00:26, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response, but it just brings up more questions for me. First it *IS* only your word that I'm taking, because it's the only word I have definitive proof of. But to the questions; let's (hypothetically) say you're right, and I'm stalking you. Why does that cause you to say "I think it's rather rich for you to speak of collegiality"? Do you think stalking and collegiality are mutually exclusive? Or maybe you say that to everyone you think is stalking you? And what exactly has been definitively proven? RoscoHead 00:57, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(deindent) Hi Lar, sorry to butt in. I've asked RoscoHead to back off. Can I ask you too to let this drop here? As I said to the other user, I don't think it is going anywhere good. Apologies again for playing the cop; I know you can fight your own battles. Just don't think this is the place for it. Best wishes --Guinnog 01:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

redacted to User_talk:Great2bnaustin#Intimidation.3F per my policy. Threads should stay where they start for best clarity. ++Lar: t/c 05:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lar. I've been asked for a copy of a deleted article. Ordinarily with userfication I'd undelete and move to userspace, but this article has over 500 edits. Do you think it's alright to just copy the latest revision for the editor? Any GFDL issues? --kingboyk 12:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding on GFDL is that we MUST preserve the revision history, even for something that ends up in user space, if it isn't deleted outright, with certain very limited exceptions. That's because we have to be able to attribute work properly. So I'd restore it with all 500 versions in the history and then move it... copy paste moves are almost always frowned on... I could be wrong, and you could get more opinions on WP:AN. ++Lar: t/c 13:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Lar. I userfied the whole thing and advised him to move rather than paste it back should it ever make a return to article space. --kingboyk 15:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please grant me access to the channel. My nickname is CBWeather. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:05, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, since you're an admin. I'll sort it out for you tonite if you're not already sorted. Do you have a cloak? ++Lar: t/c 19:32, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No I don't. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 04:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see you on tonite.... ping me when you're in IRC and see me and I'll get you sorted if you haven't already been set up. ++Lar: t/c 05:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was on for a couple of hours. Which channel? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I missed you, I should be on again tonight I think. Check in #wikipedia and in #wikipedia-en to see if I am around, then ping me or open a query to me so we can talk through it.. You have at least registered 2 nicks, and linked them together, right? ++Lar: t/c 16:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does he have to roll one trouser leg up, and bear his left breast? Giano 16:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. And there are other channel admins that can help him, of course. But those are the requirements for admission to that channel as I understand them, a cloak is preferred, and having two nicks, registered and linked together, is required. The rest is just how to get hold of me. Hope that helps, thanks for stopping by. ++Lar: t/c 16:49, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh this is intriguing, what is the cloak like? - is it like the Caped Crusader's - and what about the 2 nicks linked, what are they, some sort of initiation incisions like Red Indians do, with nipple piercings linked with a chain? do people have an anaesthetic before the nick is made? I'm glad I'm not an admin it all sounds jolly painful. When you are initiating people do you wear a special sort of hat, like a grand wizard? I only ask, you understand, because I'm interested in this sort of thing. Giano 17:47, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in #wikipedia-en-admins regularly, and I have neither cloak nor more than one nick. (I do have a jolly good branding scar, though!) Should I? -GTBacchus^(talk) 18:06, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You just have to be registered and logged in AFAIK. If you see me on, you can ping me to add you too. Bearing of breasts may or may not be encouraged, but what happens in #wikipedia-en-admins, stays in #wikipedia-en-admins. --Interiot 18:21, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, but sadly I'm not an admin, story of my life, I've always been interested in secret societies and things since my very best friend Gianluca and I formed a very secret society, we too had codes and initiations and secret ways of communicating just like Lar's; but then Gianluca's mother said we had to admit his sister Eleanora, and all the other members left and formed their own secret society and wouldn't let us join unless we lost Eleanora - so we lost her but alas she was found and Gianluca's mother told my mother and it all became very unpleasant and stressful - and I never did again join a secret society - so I'm just interested - does Lar though have to wear a special hat, or something else distinguishing, when he's initiating? Giano 18:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really all that much of a secret cabal. About the only thing that's secret there are OTRS issues (for some reason #wikipedia-en-admins is restricted, but #wikimedia-otrs isn't). 97% of the time, people seem to hang out in #wikipedia-en-admins just because it's not quite as off-topic as the other channels. The buzzwords are IRC/Freenode-specific stuff, you can read about it in their FAQ. And for what it's worth, if it would decrease this ingroup/outgroup tension, I'd most likely support you as admin. --Interiot 18:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another admin party on my talk page! All I know is what I was told, that cloaks are good, but not mandatory, but you have to have two linked nicks. I have no idea why that is without reading up the stuff I read back when, and don't really care. There are a large number of people that have sufficient access to grant access to the channel, and do the invite exemption, so it's not like CBWeather has to get it from me. Giano I hope you've now got whatever it is you came here for. Not that I'm clear on exactly what it is or why you came here but ok... ++Lar: t/c 19:27, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's just not true about two linked nicks. I've only got the one, and I'm in #wikipedia-en-admins right now. -GTBacchus^(talk) 19:32, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a little bird tells me that what that is all about is that you need two linked nicks to GET a cloak. And having a cloak makes giving the invite exemption easier I think. But I dunno... ++Lar: t/c 19:59, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So where does one get the invitation, or can anyone join - is "Little Bird" a code name for someone important? - like Secret Squirrel? Why is so secret what you wear Lar for initiations? Giano 20:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Giano, please consider posting in a way that doesn't give me the impression you are trolling, thanks. If you seriously have questions about this there are resources available to you. Start with the IRC article would be my suggestion, and the FAQ on Freenode. If you don't seriously have questions, well at this point, you may find more sympathetic ground for your bon mots elsewhere. ++Lar: t/c 20:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relax! There is no need to be offensive Lar, I realise this is all frightfully important to you. As a mater of fact I have no wish to join your secret society with or without nips and tucks and magic cloaks and jockstraps, I shall form my own secret club "Freccia ardente di verità" and no matter how much you plead I won't let you join not even if you give me all your candy and pocket money. Now you have a nice secretive evening and watch out for spies in the camp! Ciao Giano 20:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so you don't actually have any serious questions then? Glad we've got that sorted... But watch out that those flaming arrows don't hit you in the place you keep your truth, hm? ++Lar: t/c 20:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have no fear Lar, I never miss a trick! Giano 21:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just a few bits of information for the curious:

• Wikipedia:IRC cloaks and, related, m:IRC channel cloaks
• Wikipedia:IRC channels
• Just about the entire category: m:Category:IRC
• Once you're connected to IRC, you can see the access list by typing /msg chanserv access #wikipedia-en-admins list
• Other notable Wikipedia admins with access there are myself, Bishonen, and Bunchofgrapes. Any admin can request to be added, though since it takes effort to do so, and not all admins care about either IRC or that channel, it's only done on request.

Buon giorno. ~Kylu (u|t) 00:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Ciao Kylu! Thanks for clearing that up, I'd no idea a cloak could be anything other than the obvious. - Oh to have been educated in IT, when I was young we had to save for three years to afford a pocket calculator the size of a house brick. I'm glad you popped up here though, because funnily enough it was you who fist alerted me to the secret Admins channel, do you remember when you banned me following discussions on that channel, then when the ban turned out to be controversial you couldn't remember with whom you had discussed it, then when it turned out to be Lar (not exactly an unbiased party) Lar became very cross, and refused to have any of the conversation disclosed - so you see I started to wonder about the channel then - and why Wikipedia matters discussed there are secret. Never mind it's all clear now. I won't bother posting to this thread again unless anyone else makes a pertinent point. Giano 09:21, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So, does "fairly shortly" mean "real soon now", or are there other complications that are delaying things? ;-) Kirill Lokshin 20:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other complications. :) The results are written (were as of last Friday actually). Danny knows where they are. He liked what we came up with for our selection. He just needs to announce the results. So at this point I'd bug Danny... I don't want to steal his thunder without his blessing. My apologies if this is giving you any heartburn! ++Lar: t/c 20:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support! --Guinnog 23:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Other than the meatball wiki reference, is there any such essay, or guideline or whatnot here on en.wikipedia? I keep thinking that we should if we don't already, but I don't want to duplicate effort. Thanks! Georgewilliamherbert 04:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know but I think if no one has it would be a good idea. Perhaps with a bit more meat that the meatball one (which gets the point across though, I was thinking of examples). I've been off wiki but I have been thinking that there are a few folk that need defending right now, too. ++Lar: t/c 12:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject The Beatles Newsletter Issue 007 – November 2006
Issue of the Month Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context. Basically: All direct quotations attributed to Beatles members pooled from interviews need full inline citations. All critical comments about songs or albums need full inline citations to notable music critics, magazines opinions, or reviews, as opposed to being merely comments by Wikipedians. Inline citations need: author name, article name, publication date, and name of publication. Such info is still preferable even if quoting from an interview posted upon a website; when this is the case, place the URL link at the end of the citation with the date it was last accessed. (This will help editors retrieve the page using the Wayback Machine, should the link go dead in the future.) Beatles News The Beatles are due to release a soundtrack album, LOVE, at the end of November, as a companion to their Cirque du Soleil adaptation of the same name. It will feature remastered and remixed versions of their previously released songs, including some new medleys. Paul's getting a divorce. Pain, arguing, and fighting abound. Project News Featured Article drive: A number of project members are collaborating on Paul McCartney's article, with the aim of getting it to Featured Article status. The work is going well and all help is welcome! Check in at Talk:Paul McCartney if you want to help. The Wings tours are really nicely documented now (see Category:Wings tours), but Category:The Beatles tours is almost empty. Kingboyk and the rest of us would love to see (and read) articles on each Beatles tour, including the pre-fame tours of the UK—and the Hamburg trips, of course! The article on Alistair Taylor has been adopted by Alexcalamaro. Two new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 October: "I'll Be on My Way", a Lennon/McCartney song from 1963 (Zakko) Wings tours, a list of Wings concert tours (Kingboyk) The hottest Project page this month has been Paul McCartney, involved in the Featured Article drive, as mentioned above.	Member News New members to the project since the last issue include NauticaShades, Raymond Arritt, Alexcalamaro, Willie the Walrein, Peanut33Tillman, and Samboha. Our project members are too modest to report any awards they may have given or received. From the Editors Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read. Be sure to take part in the Featured Article drive, and don't forget those inline citations! If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 008 – December 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Contributors to this Issue GPHemsley (Lead Editor) LuciferMorgan (Editor) Kingboyk (Editor) Lar (Distributor)
Complete To Do List Make visible or invisible by clicking Show or Hide, respectively. Open tasks for WikiProject The Beatles. Edit or discuss these tasks. As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy. To Expand: Apple Records See also: Adopt an article To Clean up: Apple Records discography (wikify). The Beatles' 1965 USA Tour. To Merge: To Create: Lennon/McCartney songs: I'll Keep You Satisfied (produced by George Martin), From A Window. George Martin produced Billy J. Kramer song: Magic Carpet (song). Songs covered by The Beatles: Hippy Hippy Shake. The Big Three. Bag o'Nails, where Paul met Linda. Macca single: My Brave Face. Articles on each Beatle tour (Category:The Beatles tours). Be-Bop-A-Lula. Go Now (song) - Moody Blues song sung by Denny Laine on Wings Over America (also needs wikilinking from various Wings and Moody Blues related articles). Full list & instructions. Lists to complete: Wanted Pics/Graphics: Mal Evans, Flying (song), Astrid Kirchherr, Jimmy Nicol, Cynthia Powell, Alistair Taylor, Ivan Vaughan, Tittenhurst Park. We need a better open-licenced photo for the project, to replace the Abbey Road crossing. If you provide a photo, please remove the ReqPhoto tag from the article's talk page and remove the article from this list. Project Discussions: The Beatles history, Individual songs vs longer album articles, Beatle wives, Merge/split proposals Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here. If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.

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"For making threats against Cool Cat and others"?   What threats? – SAJordan ^talk_contribs 02:20, 14 Nov 2006 (UTC).

If it's alright, I'd like to mentor Tobias Conradi. I am not an administrator but I'd say I'm a firm, polite user. KazakhPol 05:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strikes me that having an admin (who can block) might be better but if you wanted to try, sounds good to me, mention it on the WP:AN/I thread. I certainly have no standing to decide per se.... ++Lar: t/c 05:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Will you pleast step in and undo User:Calton's undiscussed move of Arpad Elo, contrary to everything in Wikipedia:Naming conventions, without any discussion on the long-standing talk page, as pointed out at Talk:Árpád Élő#User:Calton trying to pick a fight. That this is indeed [User:Calton|Calton's]] sole purpose is quite evident from his reply on [my talk page. Gene Nygaard 05:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please. You left a childish, foot-stamping threat on my page ("Now, please move that back, or I will have to find the appropriate place for a complaint against your actions"). That's not picking a fight, that's calling your bluff. --Calton | Talk 06:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

um, is mot Wikipedia:Requested moves the right place to discuss this? I don't think I'm competent to have an opinion on this one at this time without a lot more research. ++Lar: t/c 12:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. If I want access to #wikipedia-en-admins do I need to contact you even if I am an administrator? / Fred-Chess 15:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Before I forget, I had intended to ask on IRC what template to use for sockpuppet banned users (if I wait two minutes longer, I will forget the question) .

Fred-Chess 15:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To use that channel you need to be on the access list. I am one of several that can add you. Once on, you have to invite yourself to join every time you start up your chat client again. However it is possible to get an invite exemption, if you have a consistent mask. Do you have a cloak? ++Lar: t/c 00:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a cloak.

Can you please add me to the list and tell me how to proceed?

Fred-Chess 15:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. There are other people that can help you but since you don't have a cloak I'll want you to verify your identity for me by getting hold of me in IRC and doing something I tell you to do. What is your IRC nick? I tried fred-chess but did not find you. ++Lar: t/c 16:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't online. It should work now. / Fred-Chess 16:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"I confirm that my IRC nick is Fred-Chess" Fred-Chess 16:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I left a brief reply on my talkpage, and email will be forthcoming shortly. It's funny, because I had been meaning to get in touch with you. I had wondered if you had any non-admin tasks (especially in the DYK area) that I might be able to help with? Let me know if I can give you a hand with anything. --Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 16:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, you have mail. Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 19:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No rush on letting me know I have mail, I get to it all eventually... As for DYK things, take a look at the talk pages there, as there is talk of a new way to let non admins stage up nominations in advance. There is also the thought that non admins could notify the authors/noms of articles that the article was promoted... ++Lar: t/c

Thanks, I'll look into that; sounds like fun. Also, here is the link I mentioned. It was certainly a learning experience : ) Doc Tropics ^{Message in a bottle} 20:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, yes please! Like here. ;-) I saw your comment on the talk page, and I'd made a brief start at User:Carcharoth/ArbCom_Elections. But I fear the amount of stuff to wade through will overwhelm me. Carcharoth 23:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've also thought of listing the date each candidate nominated themselves for the elections, and also listing those that entered and then withdrew (for a complete record). Also, checking the block log to see which candidates have been blocked in the past. That sort of thing. Do you think that goes too far? All this would, of course, only be as notes on my user pages. Carcharoth 17:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Those seem good things to me, yes. Try using {{Admin}} to list things about the candidate that become clickable. No need to actually count blocks per se. I probably will do my own list but am not sure when... soon. ++Lar: t/c 19:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See also User:Jd2718/jd2718_ArbCom_notes. That includes opinion, something I want to try and avoid in my collection of information. Carcharoth 01:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case you miss it, there is a table being constructed over here. Carcharoth 06:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 23:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Hello Lar, do you think you could take some of your time to look into this? I have a feeling that it hasn't attracted any administrator attention so far, and personally I'm growing sick and tired of reverting the same articles over and over again, in order to remove nonsense added by this vandal: My post on the Administrator's noticeboard /M.O (u) (t) 00:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on AN/I, thanks for letting me know. Blocked the lot of them for 48 hours... (can't indef block AOL) ++Lar: t/c 00:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user supports Kylu for ArbCom.

pschemp | talk 05:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that bumperstickers are a good idea. Haven't decided yet. ++Lar: t/c 12:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bumper stickers are a great idea!

Hi Lar,

As you know I'm a bit busy at the moment. There's a few unresolved adminy type issues on my talk page, would you be so kind as to deal with any you can for me? Cheers mate. --kingboyk 18:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC) Steve.[reply]

Which ones, mate? I can try... but need some clues as to which. I'm pretty busy too, !campaigning for Steward and stuff :) ++Lar: t/c 19:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I took my best shot, if you think there are more, please email me with which... hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 21:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article Fairmont Preparatory Academy was deleted, with an earlier copyright violation cited as an issue in justifying the deletion. The article was heavily modified to address the copyright issues, but the GFDL issues remain. I would like to request undeletion and creation of a user version of this article, so that it can be further expanded and can address the copyright problems. Please let me know if you need any additional information regarding this request. Alansohn 17:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reviewed this article and concur that it is suitable for undeletion and userification to your userspace so you can work on it to correct the issues raised during the AfD. I have so userified it to User:Alansohn/Fairmont Preparatory Academy. Good luck. ++Lar: t/c 18:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to set it up I will fill in as much as I am able from the usual sources - I find that my contributions usually galvanises someone else into correcting them. I am not at all upset, despondent nor irritated that no-one cared to ask me if I could get back in the saddle, and I think you should be aware of this! ;) LessHeard vanU 20:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't gone round to all the Usual Suspects to drum up an editor... glad you turned up!... the page has been set up at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Outreach/Newsletter/Issue 008 by using the template, which needed a small tweak. Have at it! ++Lar: t/c 21:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Along the lines of "Defend Each Other", Solidpoint (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) made a threat of bodily harm to editor SWATJester in an external forum (See ANI thread [1]). It would appear that an indef block on Solidpoint for the threat is called for. I'm dropping this on a few admins talk's to try and resolve quickly, though it's on ANI now. Thanks. Georgewilliamherbert 21:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I am queasy unless it has been demonstrated they are the same person, and would not place the block, but would support a fellow admin if they so judged it to be needful. We usually do not do things because of things done externally. But I have wondered if that was a wise policy or not, and am not sure. ++Lar: t/c 22:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I found you through , and I was wondering if I could get a copy of the Qpawn article that was recently deleted. I, personally, think it deserves a chance, and I was in the process of digging up other references/sources when the article was deleted. Of course, I hadn't thought to copy the page myself before it was taken down. --Jemiller226 23:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, may I add, the layout of your user page is really cool. I might be forced to mercilessly crib it in order to clean up my own page a ton bit. --Jemiller226 23:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be happy to consider userifying this, and will get to it shortly. Remind me if I forget (about to step away for a bit, so no time to review the article) ++Lar: t/c 00:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have userified this at your request. I personally think you will have a very hard time establishing notability, but based on your solid contribution record I decided to go ahead. Best of luck... remember that the page could still be put up for deletion even as a user page.. you will want to delete any inward links (Special:Whatlinkshere/Qpawn) to it as well. I deleted the redirect itself and removed the AfD notice ... ++Lar: t/c 03:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, no doubt it will be tough. I tried to make a case for it, though, so it's only right that I try and make it work in a way that most contributors would see it as a legitimate article. Call it penance.  :) --Jemiller226 05:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lar. I know that you're busy these days, but I wonder if DYK hooks offered you a more convenient and time-friendly way to participate. We have experienced a huge growth in DYK participation, and now have a surplus supply (about 20 noms per day satifying basic requirements). Unfortunately, we are not the most ruthless with the hooks. I remember you were quite good at getting them in order. Would you like to help? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, do you mean reviewing and downchecking hooks, or trying to improve them or ? I looked on the talk pages and did not see anything concrete. Let me know. It sounds like a way to get back in the swing of things a bit. ++Lar: t/c 02:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, cutting out the bad hooks....but if you want you could improve them....We also seem a bit short of updaters on the weekends. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see what I can do. it does seem a way to help that doesn't require as much free time in one chunk as an update... ++Lar: t/c 12:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lar, I'm just curious, how's the progress on the Trentino-South Tyrol mediation? Best regards, Markussep 20:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

not good! I need to buckle down and do all the reading needed. I do mean to do some work on this but have not made enough progress to even summarise the issues yet. Sorry for the delay. ++Lar: t/c 20:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fast reply! If you need some help just let me know. Things seem pretty quiet around South Tyrol lately, apart from the occasional vandals who remove either the Italian or the German names from the articles. Markussep 20:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(Copied from ani) User 152.91.9.144, I'm not sure that I understand why you have created two sections here, or why you reordered the comments, repeatedly, in the previous section, or why you're taking quite such a strident tone. It may be best to present the facts dispassionately and succinctly and let the facts speak for themselves. Since those facts ARE presented, the best thing to do now is stop completely. ++Lar: t/c 04:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Lar. Just a couple of things:

• I created the second section because I was told to create a new section. ANI moves very fast and sometimes things get overlooked, and I attempted to simply move the old discussion down to get some further attention. I replaced it exactly once. I didn't create the other section, Trodel did.
• I'm not sure what you mean by "re-ordering comments." The only changes to an individual comment I made were to indent P's replies, and the copy-paste to lower on the noticeboard.
• I'm trying to maintain good humour at being told my tone is "strident."
  • After recieving a week-long block without warning for participating in uncontroversial discussion on ani, I complained not one whit outside my talk page.
  • I placed exactly one quite civil reply on P's talk, explaining how her "get the facts straight" comment to me was quite incorrect. (Mea cupla: The wiktionary link was uncalled for on my part.)
  • P's hostile and inconsistant replies about "whining" seem to pass without notice?
• Only when evidence of further blocks well outside normal practice were raised did I say anything.
• You may have noticed that I _have_ stopped completely, after presenting the facts and what I'd like to see happen.

I've always taken you to be an even-handed and egalitarian adminstrator, and am somewhat suprised to see you giving tacit support here. Have you actually looked at the two blocks-without-warning that I was concerned about?
152.91.9.144 05:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Geez. Did it ever occur to you that I saw that another admin had fixed the mistake? That there was another anon at the same time who was trolling (pretending to be Jimbo in fact) who the block was meant for? The other admin fixed it, you did not suffer a unjustified weeks block, and I saw that it had been fixed and saw you hadn't commented so if you were so peeved by it, you should have said something so I could explain the situation. As it was, you didn't seem to care. Stalking me for weeks afterwards and this continual harassment on your part is an unacceptable behaviour considering the mistake was fixed!. And the blocks without warning was the same person jumping IPs and making the same edit. I have explained that at least 5 times and you continue ignore it. You were indeed to told to make a new section, about the NYeditor block only, not to rehash every flipping thing that had already been discussed, yet you had to start it all over again. Your constant assumptions of bad faith about my actions have been enormous and unjustified. And yes, after you continue to ignore explanations and harass me, I'm not going to be sticky sweet friendly with you, nor am I required to be.pschemp | talk 07:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep this short, as it's innappropiate to have it out on someone else's talk:

• When I "said something" to pschemp regarding my block, she removed it without comment,
• A single back-and-forth on ani is hardly "Stalking" or "continual harassment,"
• I'm not assuming bad faith, simply saying that pschemp's blocks for "trolling" are questionable judgment.

I'll not reply to any further posts from pschemp on this page, it's Lar's talk, this IP has it's own talk page if pschemp want to communicate with me.

152.91.9.144 22:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If its inappropriate, then why did you post here to begin with? Perhaps because no one else agrees with you and you are still trying to harass me? I have a right to defend myself against your false accusations about my behaviour. pschemp | talk 23:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]