Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 30: Difference between revisions

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 30, 2024.

• Radio-Canada → Canadian Broadcasting Corporation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Disambiguate. Radio-Canada can mean a few things, none of them being its English equivalent (though I guess it can be with enough of a stretch). LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Question for LilianaUwU: What other things could Radio-Canada mean? voorts (talk/contributions) 01:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Ici Radio-Canada Télé, Ici Radio-Canada Première (those two being the main ones) and Radio Canada International, as well as their headquarters at Maison de Radio-Canada. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 01:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate. From the history, I see that I created this redirect more than 20 years ago (!), and at the time Wikipedia was only a few years old and its content was less extensive than today. I think there weren't any articles about Radio-Canada at the time, so this was probably just a placeholder redirect which I forgot about long ago. Thanks for taking the initiative to fix this. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 11:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:PTOPIC - Radio-Canada is the well-known-in-English French name for the subject covered at Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (branded "CBC/Radio-Canada" per the first sentence). Hatnotes are provided to link to articles covering specific divisions of Radio-Canada. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Hitting the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation aka Société Radio-Canada aka CBC/Radio-Canada when searching Radio-Canada is unsurprising. Reiterating Ivanvector above: the hatnotes are good navigational aides and if those fail the same articles are linked in the lede. ― Synpath 23:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Panther Memorial Stadium, McBee → McBee High School  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No longer mentioned at the target after a 2012 merge/redirect AfD closure. A high school's stadium does not need to be a redirect to the school if the stadium has no discussion at the target page, although the history may need to be dealt with. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Paramount Television International Studios → TIS Productions  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per the outcome at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 3#Paramount Television International Studios, where incoming links were the hurdle straight after a page move, I've given it enough time for the actual targets and/or rdr targets to be sorted out. The reason or rationale is the same as its/the original listing. Intrisit (talk) 06:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Paramount International Networks#Production company where the relevant context/history of this company is detailed. It also points to TIS Productions at that target, though the two do not appear to be directly linked anymore and this company is not mentioned at the original target. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Goulash (magazine) → Harrow School  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is a local(?) satirical(?) magazine published by a boarding school. Zero standalone notability, existed as two sentences that were BLAR'd immediately into the school it was published from. No mention of "goulash" anywhere at the target page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No mention No redirect. To be honest, I doubt if this magazine is even real. Couldn't find anything in Jstor and Gscholar Ca ^{talk to me!} 15:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's probably real, honestly, but just so local that it has no electronic archives, as many a student magazine do 😅 Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to The Harrovian and unlink there. Jay 💬 09:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• ELLIS, DICK → Dick Ellis  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No affinity for ALL CAPS. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. It's common for encyclopedias and other reference works to begin an entry with the title in all caps. This page on another wiki cites Ellis' article in the Dictionary of British Intelligence, and the article apparently uses ELLIS, DICK rather than Ellis, Dick or Dick Ellis. Maybe you'll try this version if you've not used Wikipedia much (or if it's been a while), or you may copy/paste it into Wikipedia from somewhere else that uses the all-caps. Nyttend (talk) 12:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I created this in response to this request: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive234#Redirect_request. I have no strong view re whether or not it should be kept. WaggersTALK 10:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep as WP:CHEAP and not sufficiently "weird" to qualify for WP:RCAPS in my opinion. Pinging User:Tom Pippens (who made the request linked above) as a courtesy, but they have not edited since 2012, so I doubt they care at this point. --NYKevin 22:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as per WP:RCAPS. While I can see Nyttend's argument that Ellis, Dick should redirect to Dick Ellis, I'd like to point out that this website's search functionality is CaSe InSeNsItIvE, save for when two titles are only different by capitalization (as per WP:DIFFCAPS). We don't need to keep allcaps redirects; if one feels that a "last name before first name" redirect would be helpful, it would be more helpful with some lowercase letters. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not everyone uses the search page to find articles. Plausible capitalisations are useful for other reasons (e.g. someone typing or copy/pasting text into the URL bar, like I do), so we have a category for them with tens of thousands of entries. Nyttend (talk) 21:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep per WP:CHEAP, as an {{avoided double redirect}} of (newly created) Ellis, Dick. Seems like a harmless {{R from alternative capitalization}} - not everyone uses the search bar; but even if everyone did, I'm not convinced that this redirect is problematic/would warrant deletion. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 19:42, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per RCAPS. Not convinced there is any affinity for having all caps more than any other name, which wouldn't have rcaps in the first place, DICK ELLIS doesn't and shouldn't exist, etc. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pluri- → Plural  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Pluri → Plural  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Pluri indeed means plural, but the current target is about grammatical person, and this prefix is used in other contexts (eg. plurinational, plurisexual, etc.) and it's not mentioned in the target page either. It could be dabified in line with multi. --MikutoH ^talk! 22:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• I agree that Plural isn't a good target as it doesn't explain how the prefix operates. Exploring what would go into a Pluri DAB page turns up only Pluri Inc. as a PTM and a list of articles that have a pluri- prefix that maybe could go into a See also section. Such a page might ignore too many DAB guidelines while trying too hard to guess at what might be useful. Perhaps a soft retarget to wikt:pluri- is most helpful to searchers. ― Synpath 23:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Finite dimensional Hilbert spaces → Category of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Finite dimensional hilbert spaces → Category of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The current target may be too technical for the search term. Alternatives could be Hilbert space or Euclidean space (or Euclidean space#Technical definition). Also note that the singular Finite dimensional Hilbert space, or the more correct hyphenations Finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces/Finite-dimensional Hilbert space do not currently exist. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Royal tart → Adventure Time season 2#ep35  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Should delete as to WP:FANCRUFT. BaduFerreira (talk) 17:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• As a redirect, this is valid. The concern of FANCRUFT may be taken up at the target article. Jay 💬 18:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete in favour of search results. While the target article does have a cited one-line mention of a Royal Tart Toter, redirecting to this section alone buries the other cited one-line mentions in Wikipeida. ― Synpath 23:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pawanism → Pawan Kalyan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of "Pawanism" at the target page. 7 years ago, it was said that "Pawanism isn't notable on its own, but should be discussed on Pawan Kalyan" in an edit summary. However, it is not. There are multiple people named Pawan on Wikipedia; "Pawanism" is too vague in its current state. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I think the term is related to him. [1][2][3] I don't see harm in keeping the redirect and adding a short note somewhere in the page, although admittedly I'm not quite sure where it'd fit in. Golem08 (talk) 21:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pinkblood → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• PinkBlood → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Pinkblood (band) → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Pinkblood (group) → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Pinkblood (South Korean band) → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Pinkblood (South Korean group) → SM Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No substantial mention of "Pinkblood" anywhere on Wikipedia; is only stated once in a citation on a different article. If this is a possibly notable group, seems to be worthwhile to keep as a red link to encourage article creation. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 17:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Per this article from the Korea Times [4], this is what I could find on Pink Blood from SM. While there might be an argument to keep the first 2 redirects after using the info from the article to expand the SM Entertainment article, the remaining redirects should be deleted as Pink Blood is clearly not a future kpop group but rather a made-up term for fans of SM Entertainment. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 11:13, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Jackahuahua → Jack Russell Terrier#Post-World War II  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Dog breed redirected at a 2008 AfD, seemingly been unmentioned at the target for over a decade. It's misleading to maintain breed redirect for a dog type that holds zero information on Wikipedia. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could go to list of dog crossbreeds but that page doesn't mention it; however, it's only had 3 views in the past 30 days which probably includes me looking at it. I don't think this designer dog breed has much notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Easing function → Inbetweening#Digital animation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Without a mention of "easing", making this already not a great target, there's also no mention of a "function" at the target either. While the page admittedly talks about an "ease-in" and an "ease-out", this is not necessarily an "easing function" and several other topics deal with "easing" as well. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Easing function is a common term in computer graphics, see [5] [6]. Maybe there's a better redirect target, or a new article is warranted, but this was the best I could find. 11wx (talk) 01:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Lev Trotskij → Leon Trotsky  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete per WP:RFD#D8. This appears to be the spelling of Trotsky's name in various North Germanic languages and this spelling isn't used in the article. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - appears to be the spelling of his name in Danish and Norwegian, neither of which are particularly relevant. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - the target does mention the transliteration in the Notes. There is also Leo Trotskij from 2005. Jay 💬 07:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I hadn't noticed that before, but it appears to just be this uncited bit here: "also transliterated Lyev, Trotski, Trotskij, Trockij and Trotzky." I've seen no evidence that Trotskij is a valid English transliteration, rather than the transliteration into the languages that have been identified here. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I have added a {{cn}} but you are free to remove the mention. Jay 💬 04:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Removed. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Bounding Into Comics → All3Media#Companies  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The two seem unrelated. --62.166.252.25 (talk) 06:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Bounding Into Comics is owned by Aurora Media, which is owned by All3Media. That's the relation, however the redirect doesn't seem particularly helpful; there's nothing mentioned at the target page. Golem08 (talk) 21:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Bessel potential space → Bessel potential  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Sobolev space#Bessel potential spaces seems like a more precise target (though the articles should also ideally link to each other). 1234qwer1234qwer4 12:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Template:National football Cups (CAF region) → Template:National football cups (CAF region)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete although helpful but implausible rdr title moved to the correct wording in it. Would be surprised if this is kept. Intrisit (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: This is an {{R from move}} - from what I can see, the template was at this title from 2007 until recently. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep per WP:R#K4 -- redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason, and - as far as I can see - this redirect is cheap. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 18:01, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep the page was at that title for more than a decade, and retaining the redirect is a harmless convenience for those who have been editing the area, while deletion brings no benefit. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 16:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The move occurred only nine days ago, and there are still dozens of transclusions. Best to let this one stay for a while, I think. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: per WP:R#K4, as a redirect from recent move. No harm in keeping this. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• A Platypus? → Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz#Running gags  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, and rather obscure. Target will likely surprise a searcher even with the question mark at the end 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 15:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Way too vague, even though I definitely knew what it refers to, not everyone will. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 23:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Frances and Richard Lockridge → Richard Lockridge  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Frances Lockridge now has her own page separate from her husband Bookworm-ce (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom and WP:XY. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I’m not sure. On the one hand, WP:XY; however, on the other hand, Richard Lockridge#Personal and professional life indicates that this phrase was a by-line used by the couple for the Mr. and Mrs. North, meaning that this is a plausible search term - which is backed up by this redirect getting an average 28 views/month since its creation. Perhaps retarget to Mr. and Mrs. North? But I don’t know if that would be the most ideal thing either. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 16:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete not clear that Mr. and Mrs. North is the primary target, not suitable for dabification, and of course WP:XY. We are probably best off just letting the search engine do its job. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:BCC1:74D:C5C8:CF76 (talk) 16:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per points raised by a smart kitten. The covers of Mr. and Mrs. North books do indeed depict the names of the authors as "Frances and Richard Lockridge", thus confirming the existence of a single pen name that encompasses the names of both collaborators and enabling the existence of at least a redirect (to Mr. and Mrs. North) or even a separate article which would focus on the details of the writing collaboration. Examples of other team-based articles can be found in Wikipedia entries for such collaborations as Rodgers and Hart, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Lerner and Loewe, Kander and Ebb, Comden and Green, Holland–Dozier–Holland, etc. Each of the collaborators — Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart, Oscar Hammerstein II, Alan Jay Lerner, Frederick Loewe, John Kander, Fred Ebb, Betty Comden, Adolph Green, Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier, Eddie Holland, etc. — also has a separate Wikipedia article that focuses on his or her entire life, not simply the collaboration. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 16:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:R subtopic → Template:R from subtopic  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Template:R subpage → Template:R from subpage  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Template:R plural → Template:R from plural  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

These redirects are ambiguous between the R to and the R from versions of the rcat templates:

• {{R from subtopic}} & {{R to subtopic}}
• {{R from subpage}} & {{R to subpage}}
• {{R from plural}} & {{R to plural}}.

If consensus is to delete, I'm happy to do a JWB run to replace transclusions. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 12:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and disambiguate each with a hatnote in the {{Redirect category shell}}'s |h= parameter, such as |h=See also: {{R to subtopic}}|, for example. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 12:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  With respect, I don't see how this would solve the issue regarding ambiguity. When these rcat-redirects are used, they are used by typing the template code into a wikitext editor; and it seems unlikely that most editors using them will go to the redirect's own page (which, in addition to navigating to the redirect's title, generally requires clicking the Redirected from [X] link after arriving at the redirect's target).

  Keeping these redirects would also seem to be making a determination that the (de-facto) primary topic for an {{R foo}} rcat-redirect is {{R from foo}}, even where {{R to foo}} also exists - to me, this just seems to be an WP:XY-type situation, where keeping these redirects could cause confusion. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 13:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete unless someone has a better technical solution to address potential misuse. The redirects don't seem useful enough to risk the ambiguity. Though to be honest, I'm not sure what {{R to subtopic}} is for – I understand the intent but I can't think of an example where it would be needed. (I originally created it as a redirect to {{R to related topic}}.) Looking at Category:Redirects to subtopics, it appears to be frequently being used incorrectly. If that template returned to being a redirect, I would support {{R subtopic}} remaining as a redirect to {{R from subtopic}} as I created it. MClay1 (talk) 14:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Empty and delete - an AWB (I don't know JWB but assume it's similar) run would not be appropriate, these will need to be manually reviewed to determine whether they are "R to x" or "R from x" redirects. But once that's done they should be deleted so that nobody adds more pages to them. Disambiguation doesn't solve the problem of the redirects being miscategorized - these are supposed to be part of a semi-automatic process. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•  Note: Notified Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect of this discussion. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 19:27, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: These are ambiguous and could result in improper use. Disambiguation is not appropriate, as a smart kitten explained. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Enbian → Non-binary gender  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to wikt:enbian, where it's defined. --MikutoH ^talk! 00:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to sapphism, where it is defined on Wikipedia rather than needing an XNR. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I'm not sure if targeting a redirect from a term for non-binary people to an article about an umbrella term for any woman attracted to women or in relationship with another woman is the best solution here. In addition, enbian is only mentioned at that article once in passing, as an example of an equivalent term[] for [a] relationship[]...involving at least one non-binary person. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  At the moment, it's the only place where the term is used on Wikipedia. The better solution is probably to add a mention either at the current target or another article, as Ivanvector suggests below. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  True - I suppose I was more implying that my opinion is probably that, if no other mentions exist, it would be better for it to be deleted per WP:REDLINK than pointed at the mention in sapphism. Apologies if I could have worded my previous comment better. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - it would be preferable to point this term at relevant encyclopedic content, but it's hard to pin down. Sexual identity has a list of identities but doesn't include one that quite fits this description. At Attraction to transgender people#Non-binary people there's a short blurb, and skoliosexual and ceterosexuality both target that section, but the links from there are either to Wiktionary or to other terms that kind of fit - they encompass this sexual identity but don't describe it specifically. We must be able to actually write something about this topic somewhere. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:RACIST → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Contentious labels  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Wikipedia:Racism → Wikipedia:WikiProject Discrimination  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Shouldn't they have the same target? --MikutoH ^talk! 00:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – I can't think of a better target for each. It makes sense for WP:RACIST to redirect to the policy on contentious labels; I don't think racism is relevant to that policy in the same way. It wouldn't make sense for WP:RACIST to redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject Discrimination. It would be better if there were a policy WP:Racism could redirect to, but I couldn't find one that was relevant and useful. MClay1 (talk) 14:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Mclay1, Ivanvector, and Crouch, Swale: no policy, but an essay: wp:no racists. ~~~~ --MikutoH ^talk! 21:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:No racists feels like an appropriate target for WP:Racism (without having any background knowledge of the essay or redirect) – in fact, WP:Racism would seemingly be a better page name for the essay. But I think WP:RACIST should be kept to its current target. I don't think they necessarily need to have the same target. MClay1 (talk) 01:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes I think they should. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:23, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  How about disambiguation between the 2 uses above and no racists? Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:SMALLDETAILS and WP:AINTBROKE. The RACIST shortcut refers to the policy subsection about not using contentious labels and lists "racist" as its second example of words not to use, while WikiProject Discrimination is an appropriate target for someone looking for Wikipedia writings about the subject of racism and the project that directs those efforts. Both have been around for many years without being a problem, both have hatnotes to possibly related topics (but not to each other, interestingly), and I don't think that wanting things to be the same is a good reason to mess with these titles. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]