Talk:List of presidents of the United States
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General Concerns and Questions Q1: John Hanson was actually the first president.
A1: John Hanson was the first President of the Continental Congress to serve a term under the Articles of Confederation. This office is different from President of the United States, which was only created after the US Constitution took effect in 1789.
Q2: __________ was acting president for a short time, why isn't he on the list?
A2: A period during which a vice-president or other person temporarily becomes Acting President under the Twenty-fifth Amendment is not a presidency, because the president remains in office during such a period.
Q3: Grover Cleveland is listed twice, William McKinley was actually the 24th president.
A3: Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms, so while McKinley was in fact the 24th person to serve as president, Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th president. Or another way: the next president after Benjamin Harrison was the 24th president. It should also be noted that almost all reference materials enumerate Cleveland in this way.
Q4: Harry Truman's middle name was "S". Since it's not an initial, it should not have the period after it.
A4: Harry Truman's middle name was in fact S; however, most reference materials still use the period. Truman himself signed his own name as "Harry S. Truman". Both with or without the period may be regarded as correct.
Q5: Democratic is an adjective. Presidents of this party should be listed as the noun, "Democrat".
A5: The correct name of the political party is the Democratic Party. In this case, the adjective is used to describe the party, which is what the list is showing. Note that Democrat Party can be seen as an epithet - see Democrat Party (epithet).
Q6: Please add another column to the list for ___________.
Q7: I have an issue with one of the pictures used.
A7: It is recommended that the same picture from the president's individual article infobox be used on this list by default. However, any clear view of the face will work since the pictures are so small. Keep in mind that some images on external sites may be subject to copyright, and therefore difficult to bring into Wikipedia. If you have a specific concern about an image, feel free to discuss it here.
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Using two images for Grover Cleveland
editI find it a bit odd that the same image used for Cleveland's non-consecutive terms. Surely we can find one image from his first term and another image from his second and use both respectively instead of just one image. I expect this to be the case in the scenario if Trump is re-elected in 2024 as well.
Maybe use this for the first term and the current for the second term?
HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Strongly disagree. If Donald Trump wins the 2024 presidential election, he will continue to use his 2017 official portrait for all Wikipedia articles about Donald Trump. Just like George W. Bush continued to use his 2003 official portrait even though he won a second term. Also like Grover Cleveland who used the same official portrait even though he served 2 non-consecutive terms. Teknologi Positif (talk) 14:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - Using different images might confuse folks. GoodDay (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - The White House website shows the same image for Grover Cleveland, so we should follow suit. swinquest (talk) 17:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - I can think of no compelling reason to use different pictures for the same person just because they served non-consecutive terms of office. Drdpw (talk) 23:38, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 August 2024
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Hoffmand002 (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. EvergreenFir (talk) 17:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Woodrow Wilson has an RfC
editWoodrow Wilson has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emiya1980 (talk) 03:10, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Image of Martin Van Buren
editI changed the image of Martin Van Buren to a cropped version of an 1860 photograph. Though not made when he was president, I believe it is better because it gives an accurate depiction of him. The photograph is also used as his main image on Van Buren's page Wcamp9 (talk) 16:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Image of William Taft
editI believe we should change the image of Taft to his main image (which is featured) from his Wikipedia page. Wcamp9 (talk) 16:16, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Martin Van Buren has an RfC
editMartin Van Buren has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emiya1980 (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
New discussion at Talk:White House#Adding the Executive Residence as White House on U.S. president and First Lady navboxes and placing the following navbox containers on the 'Executive Residence' page:
editFor interested editors. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)