Chzz

Thank you for your message Chzz. I don't think Campbellgirl reads either her own Talk page (talk) or the discussion page for "The Takeaway." If you look at Campbellgirl's talk file you will see that she has inserted several PRI press releases into Wikipedia articles, and her warning for deletion also had to do with a radio program. I don't think it is simply my jaundiced perspective, there are people trying to suppress any sort of realistic view of this program, and these are mostly people with something to gain from its success. If you can find a way to discuss this with her I would appreciate your trying, since I don't think she will respond to me through either of the avenues you mention. I already had an entire subhead on the discussion page for "The Takeaway" talking about Campbellgirl and her previous vandalism of the page. I appreciate your willingness to help out here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Affenbart (talk • contribs) 19:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Affenbart (talk) 19:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

As I said - please try to contact them. If they do not respond in a reasonable and timely manner, we can then issue them with a warning. But first - try talking to them. WP:AGF  Chzz  ►  16:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

OK, I addressed her on her talk page (talk) , and commented on The Takeaway's talk page, so we will see. Affenbart (talk) 18:07, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cool. I'lll try to keep an eye on it, but I'm not so good at that sort of things; I gave up on watchlists some time ago. So please keep me posted, if I forget to check up on it. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The way to get her attention is to edit The Takeaway's entry here. I'll wait a few days and then I will just go ahead and edit her edits.

Affenbart (talk) 15:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the coperation. At least now, I can see some discussion in Talk:The_Takeaway#Campbellgirl - I hope that it will ultimately be constructive, and lead to a better article.  Chzz  ►  04:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your help with italicising the title! I'll have to try it with some other articles. Thanks again Smartse (talk) 10:47, 23 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I found this on another Eurydice (genus) : <span id="RealTitle" style="display:none">''Eurydice'' (genus)</span> it allows you to do it without removing the name section. Thought you'd like to know. Cheers Smartse (talk) 00:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ah, simpler than this is to use {{italictitle}}. Smartse (talk) 09:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Before you welcome a new user do you check to see if they have made a useful contribution? Do you really think that Snakesofboingotopia should be encouraged? And they are by no means the first dubious account that I have seen you welcome. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 16:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi there, and thanks for the alert. Personally, yes, I absolutely do think that users like that should be welcomed. I see the fake article, and I see the comment it contains, "This page consists of fabricated public domain materials and all references to any real human or pre-existing television show, whether the people be living or dead, are purely and accidentally coincidental.". If we WP:AGF we can say this is a test-edit of some kind, and a user in need of guidance. Maybe not, time will tell, but I'd much rather try and turn them into a useful contributor; if they only get a nasty warning box, they're unlikely to change their ways.

No, indeed, I haven't checked the contributions; if I did, I would not be able to welcome so many. I feel that the pay-off between perhaps accidentally 'welcoming' a vandal user is worthwhile in terms of helping/welcoming true users. Many new joiners have popped into the IRC channel, and been talked through the basics - this has proved to be a very effective way of getting people into good practice and making useful contributions in a short timespan.

I leave the warning, blocking an etc to others; I'm doing my best to make new users welcome, and teach them the rudiments of Wikipedia policy and editing.

If you really do feel that this is not a worthwhile goal, then please do respond further; I am always open to criticism, and quite prepared to change my ways.

Best,  Chzz  ►  18:20, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

You are possibly doing a useful job to counteract newbie-biters like me. But please look at a new user's contributions and take the time to comment as appropriate. I have just looked at Bryceegan9710 - did you really think their contribution was appropriate? — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 18:33, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

If you mean this, then yes, I do. If it was something else, deleted, then I can't see it.  Chzz  ►  15:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

No, I mean the article now deleted. But how on earth can you think User:Bryceegan9710 is a useful contribution to Wikipedia? I am also disappointed to see you give an unqualified welcome to MichelleSommer. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 21:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

• Bryceegan9710 (talk · contribs) - as I said before, all I can see is one contrib, which looks constructive - ie that chart thing on their user page. I am not an admin, and therefore cannot see any possible deleted contributions.

• MichelleSommer (talk · contribs) - I see absolutely nothing wrong there, either. I see a new user who doesn't know how to edit. If they make contact with me soon, then I may well be able to help them become a valuable contributor. "I'm new to this but I have a lot of information about vitamins" - sounds like someone who could be very useful to the project.

Please - have a scroll up and down this page. You will see lots of questions from lots of new users who appear keen to make Wikipedia better. If I had not welcomed them, I think that several would have 'given up'. Do you not think that this is beneficial to the project?  Chzz  ►  22:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Do you know how to get that to go away? On my user page, when I look at it, by all the links with the little numbers on them, in front of it says control click. It has driven me nuts trying to figure this out! --Abce2|AccessDenied 19:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hmm. Well, it's not really anything to do with Wikipedia, I don't think. It must be something that you are doing when you're making the external links. What kind of system are you using? What browser?

It is something to do with the way you are making those external links to diffs/pages. If you just typed in;

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASandbox&diff=286935325&oldid=286934989 here]

It would display as;

here

Are you using some kind of tool to create the links, or copying them from somewhere, or what?

If possible, please talk to us live, with this or this.  Chzz  ►  20:11, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I was just copying from the adress bar. It was working fine until recently. Acually, it started after I was messing around with the preferences, but I've unchecked everything but (exepet things that I had before, i.e. Twinkle) and it was still there. --Abce2|AccessDenied 20:39, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, my knowledge of HTML coding is minimal to non-existant. -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:20, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Abce2, when you added the above comment, you also wrote the "CTRL-Click" stuff all over this page, too. See this diff. It looks like something on your machine is adding (Ctrl-click)"> to every external link on the pages that you edit. This must be some kind of add-on that you have installed; some editor, some widget, some browser add-on, etc.

Whatever it is, please get it sorted out, and be extremely careful with all of your editing at the moment.

I hope that you get it fixed. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  16:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It's a bug in WikEd. It's been fixed now and all that's left is the mopping up. Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 19:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Aha! Thanks for that, Soap. Good stuff.  Chzz  ►  15:57, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

hello - why did my page revert even though i had all verifiable info on it!!!

Ahmed Hasan Ansari (talk · contribs)

Done via IRC   Done

Please check that the users you are welcoming are not indef blocked. Your message here was placed over an hour after the user was blocked. Nakon 21:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Why was there no notification of the block on their talk page?  Chzz  ►  23:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Because there was no need to place one. The editor will get a block message when they try to edit. Nakon 01:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Great. No harm done there then?  Chzz  ►  06:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Edit: In fact, I see now that in the Wikipedia:Blocking policy it says, "Administrators should also notify users when blocking them by leaving a message on their user talk page unless they have a good reason not to."

Was there a good reason in this specific case, or was it just a mistake? Let me know, thanks.  Chzz  ►  17:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

(This thread was continued over on User_talk:Nakon#RE:_My_Signature; I have copied it over here to keep the thread  Chzz  ►  15:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC))Reply

I don't leave block tags for obvious blatant vandals. Nakon 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Well, in future, please could you do so, per policy; "Administrators should also notify users when blocking them by leaving a message on their user talk page unless they have a good reason not to.".

Thanks,  Chzz  ►  15:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

"Blatant vandal" qualifies as a good reason not to. Миша13 15:52, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I disagree. If another user comes to use that IP address, I think that they will see MediaWiki:Blockedtext. I think that that message is rather confusing, complex, and does not have a clear link to make an unblock request. In addition, there is the problem experienced here - where others may not notice that the account has been blocked. The policy seems clear to me; as a non-administrator I am unable to look at the specific contributions in this case, so - if there is some 'good reason' to not use a notice that I am unaware of, then I can accept that - but otherwise, I'd like to see the policy followed. If you disagree with the policy itself, or do not agree with my interpretation of the wording, then can we discuss it in Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy? Let me know. Thanks for the input.  Chzz  ►  15:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The blockedtext is not confusing, it just requires a skill of reading comprehension (a helpful skill when authoring an encyclopedia, if I may say so). All options are explained under "What do I do now?" There are no "specific contributions" that you can't see in this case. You could just examine the publicly visible ones to see that something's fishy and the block log shows that the user is blocked. You should have examined all those if you genuinely wanted to welcome a new user (slapping boilerplate text in the blind doesn't make much sense). As I said, blatant vandalism is a good reason (with regard to your own quotation from the policy), but if you disagree on that then I cbf to discuss this further. Миша13 16:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

• A blatant vandal blocked swiftly (with talk page priveleges disallowed) doesn't need a blocking template. They also don't need a welcome message... And some admins might redlink their talk page immediately per CAT:TEMP if they've received warnings already. –xeno^talk 16:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the welcome message.

Before I get started on to editing/creating articles, I need few tips on writing wiki scripts like text formatting tips. Also, can individual blogs be used as references? What are the sources which cannot be termed as reliable references?

Please reply to these queries or provide me some link where I can find answers to these.

Atul peerless (talk) 10:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The Wikipedia:Tutorial will take you thorough the basics of editing.

Almost all blogs are not reliable sources. The exceptions are very well-known blogs written by experts in their field. For details on what is and isn't a reliable source, see WP:RS. You might also be interested in verifiability and notability. If you are thinking of using a source, but you are not sure if it is OK, please ask.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  12:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hey Chzz, What do you use to welcome new users quickly? _{(feel free to answer on my talk page & delete if you want!)} dottydotdot (talk) 10:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The template is in user:chzz/w. So, I go to Special:Logs, choose the 'creation log', and look for users with a redlinked talk but with contribs. If the name is inappropriate, I use WP:UAA or ask 'em about it on their talk. I try to check their contribs if possible, and then open their (non-existent) talk for editing in another tab. Then, when I have lots of such tabs open, I key through them, putting {{subst:user:chzz/w}} and an edit summary, and save.

The template uses a few 'tricks' to put a page in their area, the sig/talk page of the user posting it, etc. It should work for anyone, so feel free to use it yourself. You can of course also copy it and make your own version.

 Chzz  ►  15:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

OK cool I was wondering whether you used any semi-automated tools. Thank you! dottydotdot (talk) 17:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC) PS. Have you thought about adminship? :,)Reply

Thank you! Escuincla (talk) 14:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Let me know if you post that template nomination, please.  Chzz  ►  17:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Lynst (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hello there :-)

but can you teach me html... as in making website/xanga/blogger layouts? this is really random...but i haven't found out how to do this yet... so...maybe someone who knows html can post a wikipedia article on it? for people like me...? anyways, thanks for your message Lynst (talk) 15:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I suggest you look on Google; there are tonnes of intro to HTML guides.

With regards to an article - Wikipedia probably isn't the best place for that kind of thing, because Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, or textbook. You might have more success over on wikiHow; their homepage is http://www.wikihow.com/

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  16:02, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

   Chzz  ►  17:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I'll do my best

Thanks for the tips

Wikiedit22 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiedit22 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cool! (1) Have fun, (2) Have a play/experiment in your user space, and (3) jump in and fix stuff. It's great. Also - most important - please come and say hi to us, with this or this. Maybe I can talk you through some editing stuff. :-)  Chzz  ►  19:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Jamie^☆S93 20:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

(Message moved from my user page  Chzz  ►  21:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC))Reply

G'Day Mate how do u create a sub-page???

Please Reply, thanks! The One and Only (El-Pabloski : Chat 18:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC))Reply

Howdy. You put the above message on user:chzz - next time, please put questions here on user talk:chzz - in a new section at the end. Thanks.

Two ways to make subpages;

• You could just type "User:El-Pabloski/something" into the search box, and create the page, or

• You could edit user:El-Pabloski or User talk:El-Pabloski and put User_talk:El-Pabloski/something on there. That will then appear as a redlink, because the page won't exist, then you can click on it and create it. This has the benefit of leaving you with a 'shortcut' to it.

More help is available in Wikipedia:User page.

 Chzz  ►  21:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

== H3llo and 3rr... how do u make a pictur3 small3r? thanks El-Pabloski : Chat 17:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for this, about Talk:Bentley (disambiguation). Ciao!. --PLA y Grande Covián (talk) 09:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi Chzz, I want to upload image of Jack Welch in his article page but I am not able to. Can you please guide me as to how I can do it since this is the first time I am trying to edit an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atul peerless (talk • contribs) 10:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Looking at your edits, I see that you've now managed to add the picture. Let me know if you need help with anything else.  Chzz  ►  14:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Don’t you think that the current rating of ‘Shivaji’ is lower than what it should be. Adequate inline citatons have now been provided and the article is suppported by a good number of references. Please see if the article can be promoted to a higher class. If not, then kindly suggest the changes that can be made to the article. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I had a quick look, and it does look quite good. I suggest you ask for a peer review, and then perhaps go for a good article nomination. I will try to look at it further (as time permits). Cheers, 10:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Chzz, can you tell me which template you used on that talkpage? It looks great, and I especialy love the "you don't have to read anything". Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It is user:chzz/w. Thanks for the compliment; of course, feel free to use it, copy it, etc. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 08:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I noticed that on the 3G page it asks for additional references but there are already 11. I have a reputable reference I'd like to add but don't know if I should since there are so many already. Denise Lukas (talk) 20:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi Denise, Sorry to bump in, but you could add a reference to anything that is unreferenced. When it comes to references, it is rarly harmfull to have too many, and on 3G I see lots of things that could be referenced. Just a random line I picked up: "The first pre-commercial demonstration network in the southern hemisphere was built in Adelaide, South Australia by m.Net Corporation in February 2002 using UMTS on 2100 MHz.". If you have a ref for that, great! If you have a ref for anything else that doesn't have a reference yet, great! just go ahead and reference the proverbial hell out of the article! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree with the above. It is difficult to have 'too many references'. If you look at some of the featured articles, you'll see that every little fact is referenced. Hence - please add them. If you want help on how to make them look pretty, see user:chzz/help/refs. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:34, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hello,

Can you change it back to Toyota Material Handling, U.S.A., Inc.

This would be the correct way. I was confused. I did not know if it was live yet or it was still in the special page area. Can you let me know. Thanks so much for your help. I'm learning a ton about wiki.

SP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lift truck (talk • contribs) 20:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)   Done  Chzz  ►  23:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

how do I add them to an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendsofsethmorgan (talk • contribs) 22:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I think I'll step in and give Chzz a hand here, since he get lots of posts on his talk page ;-) You may wanna check out this quick guide that Chzz created on this page. Pretty much you use <ref>Reference information here</ref> in the body of an article, and you make sure that there's a ==References== section with {{reflist}} in it. :-) Killiondude (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cheers Killiondude!  Chzz  ►  23:25, 26 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi Chzz

I was only trying to help Bob1ob123 as the user seemed to be having problems with their own page "Potts Theory" about to be deleted, and not adding the "help me" template correctly on his talk page but on his article page.

the user then started to then reproduce his own research on the dyslexia page 3 times at the last count almost spam, now if this is a new user error then i do not want to get the user into trouble especially if they have a form of dyslexia and have problems following instructions and sully understanding new environments

best wishes

dolfrog (talk) 00:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. It is not a problem at all. If you look on the users page, I have already given what I hope is a reasonably clear, friendly message about it. If you think that there is more I can do, please do ask me. If we all work together in this way - well, that's what makes Wikipedia so wonderful. So - thank you very much for shouting for help when needed, please do that at any time. Don't worry too much about the edits they made, because anything and everything can be undone, and it is much more important to try and encourage contributors. If you ever have the time, please call in to the help channel and say hi to us, with this. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  00:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dear Chzz,

I'm a new user to Wikipedia. Iwant to join a WikiProject but I don't know how. Please inform me.

Your WikiFriend,

WaveRunner85 —Preceding unsigned comment added by WaveRunner85 (talk • contribs) 00:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

If possible, click this and say "Chzz". I'll help you there.

If that fails, please say so here, and I'll advise further this way instead. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  00:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. There will be no difficulty with notability. It is hard to imagine why an article on such a significant book it was deleted, rather than improved. Historicist (talk) 01:11, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Well are you some type of partner with Wikipedia, that you have an emergency Wikipedia Shutdown button,or is that a fake? lol

PS:Hi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasenano (talk • contribs) 02:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

• It looks fake to me. And remember to sign your posts with ~~~~. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 02:10, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

No, I am not affiliated with Wikipedia - in fact, there are very few employees; you can see them listed here, and read about it here. I am just a regular Wikipedian, same as you.

Don't press the button!  Chzz  ►  10:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Is it possible to be able to send email.

Also how do you write new articles

saskiaday —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saskiaday (talk • contribs) 06:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

If a user has enabled the option to receive email, then yes, you can. If you go to their user page, you will see the option to 'E-mail this user', in the toolbox - for example, if you go to user:chzz, you should see the link, as shown in this picture.

Please note, this is just a convenience, and the user is not obliged to reply - in some cases, to protect their anonymity; you will not 'see' the users email address, unless they choose to reply to you.

The normal method of communication on Wikipedia is through talk pages, like this one.

To create a new article - if you put in the title of a page that does not exist, you have the option to create the page. Please remember that Wikipedia is 'live' all the time, so it would be better to make pages in your user space first, and work on them their, before making it live. To do this, put in the search box, for example, user:Saskiaday/example and create that page.

 Chzz  ►  10:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

{{talkback|Smartse}} Smartse (talk · contribs) 11:55, 27 May 2009

Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Cropped images problem  Chzz  ►  12:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Howdy Chzz,

I'm just learning the ropes at the mo'. I was trying to find a page which lists pages which need translating, listed by language. The only ones I could find seem to be related to in-house translations. Does what I'm looking for exist? Thanks. Petitsouris (talk) 12:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ah, it's ok. I've found it. Petitsouris (talk) 12:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Damn. Beat me - just as I clicked edit. Help:Translation#How to find an article needing translation yes? Must...type...faster :-)  Chzz  ►  12:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi chzz thanks i dont know what to do on my page??? what do you do?????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodybuilder1999 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi :-) Perhaps the best thing you could do is to click this and I could talk you through some stuff.

If that is not possible, you should read through my welcome note, which should get you started.

Hope to hear from you soon,  Chzz  ►  15:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

hey im new to wikepedia, and im the cousin of Intocable the wrestler and he wants me to make a page about him. My question is how do i do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashrules002 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi there :-)

In the 'welcome message' on your talk page, there is a line saying, "Play in your user area. For example, create User:Ashrules002/test.". If you click on that red link, you can create that page. You can edit that as much as you like, and could start to write an article there. Later, when it is in shape, it is easy to copy it over to the live area.

I think it would be helpful if you talked to us helpers, too - click this to do so now.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  16:02, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have two questions. First, can you post the "Leave a Message and Emergency Wikipedia Shutdown templates on my talk page. Also, how can I check how many edits I have made, like on a number count. Please Reply Soon.

WaveRunner85 (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

1.   Done

2. You can check it in "My preferences" at the top, which shows "Number of edits", or (a bit more sophisticated) using this. I don't know of a way of displaying it on a page, other than manual editing - and that'd be silly.  Chzz  ►  17:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for welcoming me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caduca (talk • contribs) 19:54, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Caduca (talk · contribs)

Thank You for being so helpful. I have two more question first, how do you give barnstarts, and also, how can you manage the qui/ monobook thing. When I put it on my talk page it said my status was Unknown. Can you fix it for me and put it on my user page? Thanks

WaveRunner85 (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

• Barnstars - you just put the code on a users talk page, for example;

{{subst:The Original Barnstar|message ~~~~}}

For the index of lots of them, see WP:BARNSTAR.

• Qui / monobook thing - I have no idea; you'd better ask the person who wrote it or the documentation or whatever. It's not part of the Wikipedia system.  Chzz  ►  20:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It does not let me push it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rasenano (talk • contribs) 20:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hey Chzz, you bade me speak, so here I am! I am a regular Wikipedia user and have two questions: 1. Is there a forum for some pages where we can discuss things about it, not like the DIscuss pages which (from what I have seen) are soley for talking about improvements? 2. If we can't press it, what is that Emergancy Wikipedia Shutdown button for?? Thanks so much! ~*CF12*~ Curlyfries12 (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

• There are lots of forums. For general stuff, try the Village Pump. Other areas have their own page - for example, projects have talk pages, the reference desk has their notice board, there is the articles for deletion discussions, etc etc. Depends which bit you want, really. Have a browse.

• The button should not be appearing; it's a template bug. I'm trying to fix it. In the meantime, please don't press it!

 Chzz  ►  21:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oh wait I just pressed it.........--Rasenano (talk) 20:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Forgot to tell you, I love your Puzzle Manga Girl!!! Super cute!! (I am a manga fan, btw XD) ~*CF12*~ Curlyfries12 (talk) 20:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It is Wikipe-tan.  Chzz  ►  21:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

You should check out Wikipedia:Qui. It can show your status. Class I Laser ^ZAP! _Boom! 21:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've just installed it-looks really cool! Dottydotdot (talk) 00:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hmm, I see that lots of people are signing up for this thing; I worry somewhat that Wikipedia is turning into a Myspace thingy.  Chzz  ►  03:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I doubt Qui will evolve into anything resembling Myspace, at all. I installed it and put the little code on my main and talk space, but because I don't ever update it (it's all manual), I stay "online" for days or weeks at a time. Would be nice to support some kind of if statement, where if it hasn't been edited for say .. 12 hours, you automatically go offline. Whatever. –Meiskam (talk•contrib•block) 03:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I was wondering if you could help me in editing my user page. A few icons on my navbar, when you click on them are empty, can you please try to format them in some way so that people can use them? Thanks

WaveRunner85 (talk) 21:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure which bit you mean. All of them seem to work, I think? I'm not really much good at these things though - I don't bother with them. What, specifically, is not working?  Chzz  ►  22:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Well it seems like someone always has a problem with them!-Village Pump Dottydotdot (talk) 07:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for mentioning that to me; I'm following it with interest.  Chzz  ►  21:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

There is a need to find an appropriate pic of the Maratha soldier. The one that is available [32] here doesn't seem appropriate. A Maratha soldier is popularly known to have a white attire and a red pagdi(which is a distinct pagdi worn by Marathas). I want to forward this message to the users who can be of some help regarding this. Kindly tell me how to do this. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 08:06, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi. First, try to find a picture yourself - see Wikipedia:Finding images tutorial.

If you cannot find one, see Wikipedia:Requested pictures.

Good luck!  Chzz  ►  15:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

While editing an article, editing tools used to add bold, italic, internal link, etc. features to the text are not displayed. Why is it so? Kesangh (talk) 08:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

It could be due to a setting in "My preferences" (at the top of the screen), in the "editing" tab, is an option "Show edit toolbar (requires JavaScript)".

If that is checked, then it is probably something to do with your browser - either you do not have Javascript installed, or images or Java is disabled in the settings.

See Help:Edit toolbar for more information about how to get it working.  Chzz  ►  16:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

You will see I've inserted an image in the above file but would like to put it in a small box on the right with a caption and maybe add another image lower down. How should I do this?

I also tried to insert 2 "gallery" images to Jawleyford/Aframomum zambesiacum one of foliage the other fruits but the images don't appear when I clicked on "Save page".

Thanks again for your help.

Jawleyford —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawleyford (talk • contribs) 16:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

The box at the top right is called an 'infobox' - a template, which lays things out in a new format. I will look for an appropriate template, and let you know soon.

When an image is not in the infobox, you display it with the code [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|This is a caption]]. The 'thumb' part makes it a 'thumbnail' picture. For more possibilities, see WP:IMAGE.

When I just looked at Begonia sutherlandii, it had a pic without 'thumb' - so it was huge; I changed it to 'thumb'. You might want to add a caption.

If you have trouble, let me know what pics you want where, and I can do it for you.

So - I will look for an infobox, and also I will look at the gallery question - and reply further later.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I think that the appropriate infobox is template:Taxobox - you can click that for the full syntax, but I give an example below. You could copy this into the article, and 'fill in the blanks'. Remove any lines that are not applicable. (The example comes from Begonia);

{{Taxobox
| name = ''Begonia''
| image = Begonia-IMG 0089sm.jpg
| image_width = 250px
| image_caption = ''Begonia'' cultivars
| regnum = [[Plant]]ae
| divisio = [[Flowering plant|Magnoliophyta]]
| classis = [[Magnoliopsida]]
| ordo = [[Cucurbitales]]
| familia = [[Begoniaceae]]
| genus = '''''Begonia'''''
| genus_authority = [[Carl Linnaeus|L.]]
| subdivision_ranks = Species
| subdivision = See text
}}

 Chzz  ►  17:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have now fixed the problem with the gallery in User:Jawleyford/Aframomum zambesiacum. The problem was that the filenames had "jpg" in lower case, and the correct name was "JPG" in capitals. The file name must be exactly correct, and it is case-sensitive. It is usually better to copy and paste the name.  Chzz  ►  17:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Three choices

As the above may seem confusing, and as you seem to have hit on all three permutations for inserting images, let me try to clarify below;

1. Simple in-line images

The most common syntax is, [[File:filename.jpg|thumb|Caption goes here]]. This will appear in a thumbnail box on the right; this is the 'norm'. There are other options, such as [[File:filename.jpg|300px|right|Caption goes here]].

2. Articles with an 'infobox' style template

Most developed articles use an infobox to display standardized text and pictures at the top. In this case, an image is added as a parameter, like this;

{{Taxobox
| name = ''Begonia''
| image = Begonia-IMG 0089sm.jpg
| image_width = 250px
| image_caption = ''Begonia'' cultivars
... (other parameters here)
}}

3. Galleries

<gallery>
File:example1.svg|caption for first example
File:example2.gif|caption for second example
</gallery>

Important note: These go towards the end of an article - in a == Gallery == section, before references. For an example, see Fountain of time.

Hope this helps, cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks again for being so clear and helpful.

Jawleyford

Jawleyford (talk) 19:17, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

No problem at all. Often the best way to work these things out - rather than wading through manuals - is to find a really good article on a similar topic, and copy their ideas - regarding referencing, layout, etc. In this case, I see that Ficus aurea is a featured article. You might benefit by looking at that, and perusing others in WP:FA#Biology. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  19:22, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

One last thing! I was looking at the above plant and altered the name on the gallery caption as it should be "mexicana". However I didn't realize by doing that the images would disappear! Can you retrieve them for me please? Sorry about that. I'll know another time.

Jawleyford

Jawleyford (talk) 19:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)   DoneReply

I just undid your edit. You changed the actual filename given in the gallery; it might be spelled incorrectly, but for good or bad, that is the name of the picture! Pics can't easily be renamed - you have to download them and upload them again; I can't see too much harm in the filename typo - the filename could just as easily be "sausages.jpg" and it would work just as well. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I Figured out the problem Chzz, I didn't have sub pages properly enabled so the {{/}} wasn't spliting off any child pages (therefore including the namespace and page name). You pointed me in the right direction to look, and I appreciate your time and help... even if you weren't supposed to. Thanks again sir --Doylezor (talk) 20:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Uh-oh, it looks like I let this matter slide. It concerns your request to produce the printed notes of a four-note theme of a game show.

Look, I listened to that theme song music, and I didn't seem to match the printed notes you showed me. In addition, I'm not confident that the notes I am hearing are correct, either. So I chickened out--sorry. You'd need to find an annotator better equipped to hear syncopated music. Opus33 (talk) 23:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ah, not a problem; I'll ask around. Cheers for not forgetting all about it tho :-)  Chzz  ►  23:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

"Paidcontent.org" means that it's a press release. That's why it says "Release" at the end of the "article". --Orange Mike | Talk 00:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oh yeah. I see that now. Bah, it's a hard thing to search on too. What a great idea for a marketing company! A lot of the hits are based on the press release; I'll give it a go though. Cheers for userfying.  Chzz  ►  01:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hey thanks! Sorry, I was only asking admins as I assume they would know more. Thanks again! Alfred Lau (talk) 00:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hello and thank you for assisting me (: I'm a bit confused in creating the Leadership Initiatives page. I have reworded every part so that the copyright issues do not cause the deletion, but now am stuck as the actual website is the only place where the programs are listed. The organization has been seen in numerous news articles, videos, etc. but does not go into extreme depth of the programs, although I thought it would be important to note. Should I take it out if it cannot be found in any other source? Some of the programs are mentioned in videos/articles... would it be okay to include those? Also, what should I use the reference tip for (like test wise, what should I source)? Again, thank you so much for you help. I'm a newbie, and am suffering in creating this page! Thank yoU!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika.boll (talk • contribs) 01:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

If facts aren't covered by a reliable source - not a primary source - then you shouldn't include them. It might well seem like useful information, but... well, you'll have an external link to the site with the information.

It is all about verifiability - the reader needs to be able to check the facts for themselves. How could I (as a reader) definitively prove those details, if the only reference was to the organization itself? For example: I create a myspace page for chzz, saying that I am the Queen of England. Then I create the Wikipedia article about it, referencing my myspace page. It wouldn't work...I would have to wait until the BBC News picked up on my Queenhood.

Now - about the 'reference tips' thing - this is an important thing to learn. User subpages. You can make a page called 'user:Erika.boll/anything you want', and you can work on things there. You can use such pages to test things out, and to build articles. Because it is in user space, it is not part of the live site, so the pages are not 'seen' by Google. Hence, the requirements are much more relaxes. For example, you can create an article in your user space with no references at all... add some later, and then copy it to a live page. This is the best way to develop a new article. Also it means you can ask other people to have a look at it.

There are several ways to create such a page, and to access it. You could simply type 'user:Erika.boll/anything you want' in the search box, and then create the page. But you might find it better to do this - edit your own user page, which is User:Erika.boll, and add user:Erika.boll/anything you want. This will appear as a red link, because the page does not exist. You can click on it, and create it. Once you have made the page, the link will no longer be red, and you can use it to get back to it in the future.

I hope that this is clear. If not, please don't hesitate to ask for more help, at any time. You can also talk to helpers live, with either this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you!! Ah you have helped immensely (: I have put my hopeful page on my talk page.. I changed it up and made it simple, hopefully abiding by the rules and such. Do I need to put direct sources after the info? Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erika.boll (talk • contribs) 23:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yes, you will need to add references for everything - using the syntax explained in that guide on your talk page. All facts should be backed up by reliable sources. Have a go at it, and ask for help whenever you need to. Good luck with it, cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I am a parter in the company, Wisdom Impressions Publishers, LLC, which publishes Lucille's works, have been a teacher of her materials for 25 years, and attend the annual U.S. conferences of students and practitioners (have not yet made it to the Australia conference).

Although it is not apparent from this entry, Lucille's works are at the core of a world-wide movement. It is quite small in the overall scheme of things, but growing rapidly. Am glad to see something posted to Wiki at last (no matter how fractured and incomplete). I'd have posted something myself long ago but for my apparent commercial interest in the subject.

I'd be happy to offer comments and suggestions, based on my knowledge of the topic.

Namaste,

Glen Knape —Preceding unsigned comment added by GKnape (talk • contribs) 04:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. Thank you for adhering to conflict of interest guidelines. If you feel that you could add some neutral, balanced information to the article then I suggest that you try to create something in your user space - make a page, such as User:GKnape/Lucille. You could access the page by typing "User:GKnape/Lucille" in the search box, but such user pages do not appear in the live area - they are not 'seen' by the outside world; hence you can work on things there without worries over COI. The most important thing is to provide references to reliable sources - whilst I appreciate that you may have great first-hand knowledge, such facts could not be used unless supported by verifiable sources. If you could create something along these lines, I would be happy to take a look and possibly add it to the article (if it were appropriate to do so).

Do you have a free photograph that could be used? If so, please upload it at commons:upload.

Let me know, cheers,  Chzz  ►  21:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your help, again (: Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 08:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Chzz, you have been of great help and have always given prompt answers to all my queries. Thanks a lot for that! Kindly tell me about the Barnstar thing. How to award it to someone? Give me a link to find details about it. Also, i would like to know if i am anyhow charged(in terms of money) whenever i visit the Wikipedia website or whenever i log into my account on Wikipedia or whenever i open any new page in Wikipedia? Kindly help. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Barnstars are detailed in WP:BARNSTAR. To award one, you just copy the appropriate code and put it in a message on someones talk page - for example, {{subst:The Original Barnstar|Your message here ~~~~}}. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Is there a need to include {{Portuguese overseas empire}} in all the Indian places which at some moment were under Portuguese rule. These are too big a templates and as such there are many Indian places which at some point of time were ruled by some or the other kingdoms. Are we going to include the details of all such kingdoms in the respective places’ articles. These templates have been included in the articles of all the Portuguese colonies in India. In some articles these templates are even bigger than the article itself. I have been harshly warned against deleting these templates. When my edits were reverted, i didn’t redo my edits. I was a relative newcomer when i deleted these templates(and even today probably, i am a newcomer). Do i ought to get such a warning? Sometime back a user took objection on mine warning a fellow newcomer, isn’t this([33]) a similar case of Biting. Kindly go through this. Thanks Kesangh (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I would recommend discussing it on the talk page of the specific article(s). If it is a sweeping change, then the place to discuss it would be Template talk:Portuguese overseas empire. I see that this is a pretty quiet page, so it would be useful to leave a short, polite note on the talk pages of editors that you think might be able to comment - for example, major contributors to the articles in question (check history), and perhaps on related project talks, such as Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portugal.

As to whether the warning was appropriate, I haven't looked into the details, but my advice would be to forget about it. Assume good faith - that their intention was to try and help you increase your knowledge in order to make the project better.

Hope this helps. Good luck with it.  Chzz  ►  19:57, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Yo Chzz, just spotted your comment at User_talk:EPresslerHenderson and had a small bone to pick. Your advice was generally great, but you did say " You should remove the reference to "Dale Rogers Training Center" because that is a self-reference to a primary source." That link goes to a page discouraging references to Wikipedia, rather than references to the topic of the article. There are cases in which primary sources are acceptable, as mentioned at WP:PRIMARY. Otherwise, keep up the good work! Mahalo,  Skomorokh  19:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Many thanks; quite right. I have changed it to a link to WP:PRIMARY, and have modified my comment to "I think... (you should remove it). Thank you for pointing that out.  Chzz  ►  19:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for all the great info you gave me. This is the first time I've made significant changes to a wiki article and will work on making it as quality as possible.

I was wondering one thing: is there some type of timeframe on an article with notability tag on it getting deleted? I have this horrible image of coming back to it Monday with all the right "fixes" and finding that the article is gone! :O --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC) Oh, and random note: "inspirational" was the literary genre of Dale Evans Rogers' book, not the quality of it.  :) However, I'll see if I can find some specific stats instead of merely calling it a "bestseller." --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Timeframe - articles that meet specific criteria can be 'speedy deleted', which can happen almost instantly. Howeverm this only applies to very specific criteria, which this article will not fit. (See WP:CSD).

More formal deletion processes allow 7 days for discussion (after notification). In this case, I don't see much danger of that happening either.

In any case, it is important to know that deleted articles can be restored to user space, fixed up, and put back.

There is no deadline.

Re. 'inspirational' - would a wikilink to Inspirational fiction perhaps help?

 Chzz  ►  20:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

OK, thanks, sounds like I have time to do this right, then. Regarding the inspirational fiction possibility, I don't think so since it's inspirational non-fiction. I checked to see if there's an article on that, but alas, none. --EPresslerHenderson (talk) 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Aha. Thus a source for inspiration - another article needed! :-)  Chzz  ►  22:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have Lupin's Anti-Vandal Tool and when I go to someones talk page and click recent Ip edits on the tool box. Then I clicked Toggle these details. I found a mistake in editing. But I don't know how to revert it. Can you help me. Thanks

(Unsigned; from WaveRunner85 (talk · contribs) 20:44, 29 May 2009  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC))Reply

Lupin's Anti-Vandal (dup heading removed;  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC))Reply

I have Lupins and I went to a friends talk page. I went to toolbox and then clicked recent Ip edits. then I clicked toggle these details. I could see the page before he edited it and after he edited it. He made a mistake and I wanted to correct him. Do I have to go to the page or can I do it from there? Thanks. WaveRunner85 (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Ref. User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool

Hi. I have never used that tool, so I don't know; perhaps you could ask for help on User talk:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool?  Chzz  ►  21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

What's the policy for changing adopters? GandalftheWise changed WaveRunner85's adopter to himself without WaveRunner85's or my consent (as I am the adopter) and I have reverted GandalftheWise's edits until WaveRunner85 gets back to me. I'm thinking this is legit. Do you have any other advice that I could use? Class I Laser ^ZAP! _Boom! 21:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

There is no 'policy' regarding these type of informal arrangements; the idea is just a way of helping each other out. Talk to the other people, discuss it, etc.  Chzz  ►  21:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for your note. And good luck to you! Do you know Thai? I think I see Hindi on you page. I want so much to write bio on Dr. Maas. I wrote, but someone deleted it. I not know how to put in correctly references, etc. I think it is to hard for me--I do grapics for Pattaya Trader, but not knlw Wiki style. Did you read what I wrote on the page that was deleted? I would like to publish it, but to hard for me. Could you kindly read it and help me get i proper form. I do not know anyone here who knows about Wiki. Thank you very much, and regards from Thailand