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The article List of tourist attractions in China has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
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WP:NLIST Not all of the entries discussed as a set by independent reliable sources.
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The core content policies are: 1) neutral point of view, 2) no original research and 3) verifiability. This page violages policies 2 and 3.
WP:VERIFY What are the criteria to meet to be in the list? This page has vague or no criteria. By definition, then, there is no way to verify the inclusion or exclusion of any particular site in the list.
WP:NOR Original research "includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented." Who says that each of the items in the list are tourist attractions? Given the lack of inclusion criteria, that's understandable, as there is no need to justify being in a list that doesn't have standards for inclusion. However, that also points to original research as being the source for inclusion.
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The article List of tourist attractions in Hong Kong has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Policies violated by this page:
WP:NLIST Not all of the entries discussed as a set by independent reliable sources.
WP:NOTDIRECTORY "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit."WP:NOTGUIDE Wikipedia is not a travel guide. We have Wikitravel for that, and many of these pages could be recreated (or already are) there.
The core content policies are: 1) neutral point of view, 2) no original research and 3) verifiability. This page violages policies 2 and 3.
WP:VERIFY What are the criteria to meet to be in the list? This page has vague or no criteria. By definition, then, there is no way to verify the inclusion or exclusion of any particular site in the list.
WP:NOR Original research "includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented." Who says that each of the items in the list are tourist attractions? Given the lack of inclusion criteria, that's understandable, as there is no need to justify being in a list that doesn't have standards for inclusion. However, that also points to original research as being the source for inclusion.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
The article List of tourist attractions in Indonesia has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Policies violated by this page:
WP:NLIST Not all of the entries discussed as a set by independent reliable sources.
WP:NOTDIRECTORY "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit."WP:NOTGUIDE Wikipedia is not a travel guide. We have Wikitravel for that, and many of these pages could be recreated (or already are) there.
The core content policies are: 1) neutral point of view, 2) no original research and 3) verifiability. This page violages policies 2 and 3.
WP:VERIFY What are the criteria to meet to be in the list? This page has vague or no criteria. By definition, then, there is no way to verify the inclusion or exclusion of any particular site in the list.
WP:NOR Original research "includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented." Who says that each of the items in the list are tourist attractions? Given the lack of inclusion criteria, that's understandable, as there is no need to justify being in a list that doesn't have standards for inclusion. However, that also points to original research as being the source for inclusion.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Why moved the page?
@Chongkian sire, I would like to ask you the reason, that why have you moved the more appealing and condensed title, Republic of Taiwan, Holy See to it's long form, "Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) to the Holy See. please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (government and legislation). Please, don't make it a stand out article from others. follow the standard, that is being used in naming the diplomatic missions. Please, refrain from using the long, official, governmental names (Please do not include the official names of the country, as the rest diplomatic missions never use them, anyways, and aren't used here as well.)Utkarsh555 17:21, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I was just reverting the article name to the original Embassy of the Republic of China to the Holy See which that article name was named as such since 12 March 2016 and everyone agreed to that for the past 6 years, before you moved it to the new name on 23 February 2022 without any consensus in your edit summary. When you wish to move an article, please have a consensus first and invite people from WikiProject Taiwan to have a discussion on that. You didn't even write in your edit summary (on any agreed consensus regarding the name) when you moved the article. You are also not even the member of WikiProject Taiwan, the page where all of these kind of discussion have been taking place. Based on the WP:NCGAL, the very first point says 'Use official names in article titles', in which that Embassy of the Republic of China (Taiwan) to the Holy See is exactly written in their official English-language website of the embassy. Based on MOS:NC-CN, the term People's Republic of China is used when discussing about politics or diplomatic relations, thus the same applied to the Republic of China. For Taiwan case, due to their political nature, their representative office's name is really unique with case by case basis. For countries which recognize Republic of China as the sole government of China, the term Embassy of the Republic of China is used. While those countries who recognize People's Republic of China as the sole legitimate government of China, they will use Taipei Representative Office or even Taiwan Representative Office (for Lithuania and Somaliland) and their variant. Each of this has their own reason, and thus can't be standardize for every Taiwan's embassy or representative office to be just Taiwan Embassy of xxx. Over time, these naming might change due to political change across the Taiwan Strait, thus exact official naming is really desired to represent the current situation of Taiwan/ROC's diplomatic relations. Chongkian (talk) 00:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Chongkian Ok, but then why don't every country is made to use it's official name? Utkarsh555 09:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- The page is translated done and edited. Since the article had a major restructuring, you may make a rating. --Beta Lohman※Office box 19:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. The article looks good enough already to be rated C-class article per WP:CCLASS. For some improvement, you can also add the short description per WP:SHORTDES and also its official website inside infobox and external link section if any per WP:ELOFFICIAL. You might also want to translate the list of reference titles listed there into English (for the non-English title) per Template:Cite web. Also to post the photo of the organization headquarters building inside infobox if any. And you might want to write down the name of the incumbent Director-General and Deputy Director-General of the organization inside the infobox. :) Chongkian (talk) 05:08, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, I made 3 main edits today. I archived all the links in the article. Then, I translated the web titles and also marked in Khaki color to improve readability. Also, I added the director's name (I may request to recover the deleted page) in the infobox. As for the photo, I will try look into if any place has it. I also wonder why do you suggest to translate the titles. Those sites are all in Chinese. Would it increase the rating by the way? I don't think the reader would click the links in Chinese. It's a fully translation, though. --Beta Lohman※Office box 02:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, that one (to translate the non-English title), I think that is part of the referencing rule in Wikipedia. Non-English sources is acceptable, but when the title is not in English, then we only need to translate the title only, by adding the 'language=' and 'trans-title=' as part of the citation with the full coding/syntax written inside Template:Cite web page. Usually that will help the English-speaking readers inside Wikipedia. Same like when you write in Chinese Wikipedia, then the English sources you need to translate the title from English to Chinese. Some of the English-speaking readers in English Wikipedia might still click and read the Chinese sources (by the help of Google Translate). A lot of people do that actually based on my experience. Of course if the information is available in English website, then we shall prioritize that one first over the Chinese website source per WP:NONENGEL. Like this Tainan Mosque article that I wrote, the reference number 6 is a Chinese source, in which I translate the title to English in the 'reflist' part and add the language of the news source (台南清真寺隱身社區透天厝 平日大門深鎖 [The Hidden Community of Tainan Mosque, Locked on Weekdays] (in Chinese).). That is one of the example. [[Chongkian (talk) 03:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
- I came here to inform. I plan to remove the English translation on the titles of Chinese media. The MIB has been nominated for weekly translation. Then it would affect the versions in multiple languages if it's promoted on the agenda. So it shall be kept with original titles.--Beta Lohman※Office box 05:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Newtalk
- Hey, you may do a favor. The Taiwanese media Newtalk has no article here. You need to create one. This media become frequently quoted by some articles that I edited. --Beta Lohman※Office box 07:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ok I will have a look into it. I'm currently busy lately, so I haven't created many new article. Chongkian (talk) 00:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Help with moving WikiProject SEA articles to WikiProject Brunei
I've recently created {{WikiProject Brunei}} and would really appreciate it if you helped move {{WikiProject Southeast Asia|Brunei=yes}} to the new template. - nathanielcwm (talk) 04:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- But once I've changed to {WikiProject Brunei}, the WikiProject banner template still display Brunei as a taskforce of WikiProject Southeast Asia. Chongkian (talk) 00:30, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Saudi Arabia
Hi! I saw that you were a member of WikiProject Saudi Arabia and wanted to let you know that there's currently an RFC going on on the talk page for the flag of Saudi Arabia on Commons which you might be interested in participating in. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks! HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 18:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Mukims of Pontian District
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Melaka templates
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Mosques in Vietnam
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Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I (Hog Farm) didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
Template categories headers
Please avoid adding empty values for template {{Template category}} as you did in Special:Diff/1114167129. Empty values only clutter the category pages and empty parameter |type= actually causes a minor glitch in the output. I've added more samples to the documentation to make them easily copy-pasteable. —andrybak (talk) 02:02, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oh ok, sorry. Cuz all these while I just followed the same MoS 'style' when inputting Infoboxes (leaving the empty parameters as it is until one day more information are available to be put into those parameters). Chongkian (talk) 02:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Saint Barthélemy templates
A tag has been placed on Template:Saint Barthélemy templates requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
wrongly create. I intended to create Category:Saint Barthélemy templates
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. FeralOink (talk) 04:01, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I understand that you created the template, and made the request for speedy deletion, but intended to create [[Category:Saint Barthélemy templates]]. Thank you for explaining what happened! (Sorry, but I had to put this notice on your talk page anyway.) I wanted you to be aware that there already exists a Category with that name. It seems to be a correctly constructed. You can't create a Category:Saint Barthélemy templates because it would be a duplicate. Is there anything I am not understanding? If there is, let's include it on the talk page for the existing category, if possible. If not, you might put it on the to-be-deleted Template:Saint Barthélemy templates talk page, just to get help. --FeralOink (talk) 04:17, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Liga 3
Malaysia M3 League is main article, please delete/merge Liga M3.