Talk:Memorial Hall (Harvard University): Difference between revisions

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*'''Oppose''' use. It seems to me a clear violation of policy, and further a case of [[WP:OVERCITE]] to refer to multiple sources that use this terminology. It should be noted that structures such as the [[Eiffel tower]] or [[Empire State Building]] do not use such terminology, even though there would be more than ample sources to support it. It may at most be acceptable to state that the structure "has frequently been described as imposing" in the body of the article, but I suggest it should not be included in the lede. [[User:CFCF|CFCF]] ([[User talk:CFCF|talk]]) 12:06, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
*:''Clarification'': The argument is that we should not use value judgements in Wikipedia's [[WP:VOICE]], including terms of architectural criticism (as here for size or aesthetics) in '''any''' article, regardless of the strength or number of the sources. Doing so is text-book [[WP:PUFFERY]]. I implore editors to review that guideline before proposing that including the term in Wikipedia's voice prominently is apt. [[User:CFCF|CFCF]] ([[User talk:CFCF|talk]]) 11:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
:::Let me ask you, CFCF: what do you plan to do about [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22is+a+monumental%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 our literally hundreds of articles describing buildings and other works as "monumental"], or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22is+a+brutalist%22&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns0=1 as "brutalist"]? Do you plan to purge them too? [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color:red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color:blue;">Eng</b>]] 13:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
::When there were three sources, someone said they were too few and too old; but now that a list (above) of ten more sources ranging over 100+ years has been supplied, it's OVERCITE? Please make up your mind. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color:red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color:blue;">Eng</b>]] 16:58, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
:::No answer. Huh. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color:red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color:blue;">Eng</b>]] 03:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)