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Aotearoa New Zealand online meetup 34

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  • Date: Sunday 5 March 2023
  • Time: midday to 2pm
  • Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
    Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
  • Cost: Free

Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference

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All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on

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The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future meetups

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This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Attending

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Unable to come

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Agenda and notes

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1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)

Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Inc (WANZ)
  • Note: Transparency of meeting agendas and minutes is limited at the moment due to a lack of a website for WANZ. This is being worked on to make them publicly available. If you want copies please contact secretary-at-wikimedia.nz.
Update from President, WANZ Einebillion (talk)
Kia kaha to those that have been affected by Cyclone gabrielle and Auckland flooding. It continues to be a stressful time for those experiencing the impact from those events and those who are providing support.
Members of the committee are in the process of drafting the funding application to Wikimedia Foundation for July 2023 to June 2024 and associated budget. There was a special meeting to discuss options. Included in this budget will be:
  • Funding for staff and contractors to support the society
  • Funding for a list of activities including a annual WikiCon, a number of edit-a-thons
  • Funding for conference attendance including overseas Wikimedia project conferences and overseas conferences for developing
Initial draft is: [1]
The Committee have also been preparing for the AGM of the society tentatively scheduled for Monday 17 April 2023, including:
  • Drafting a membership policy including membership fees of $NZ 5 per annum
  • Drafting a membership form
  • Approving committee role descriptions for President, Secretary and Treasurer
  • Drafting a “reasons to become a member” pitch document
The current Officers are appointed for 2 year terms so the AGM will only include an "Election of Officers" item if one of the Officers resigns prior to the AGM.


Update from Treasurer, WANZ
  • The WANZ group has hugely underspent its allocated funding. This is as a result of capacity and so Marshelec (talk) hopes that if WANZ gets allocated funding for staff this will help free up capacity for editors to organise events that need funding. One event that is over budget is the Wellington WikiCon but Marshelec (talk) points out that if you break the costs down by head of attendees the conference is still very cost efficient, especially if you compare it to a 2 day catered commercial conference. He went on to explain that money and funding is not the problem, it’s not having the people and capacity to deliver on our aims. If we get a support person undertaking more of the administrative tasks hopefully this will free up people to undertake organising events etc ensuring the funding will then be spent.
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2022
Don't forget to add your program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page
  • New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this. Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10.
    • User:DrThneed updated us on the Wikidata thesis project. DrThneed took a couple of months off as a result of Xmas, New Year, family commitments over summer holidays and having COVID. After the Wellington WikiCon where she is presenting she is intending to ramp up work on the Thesis project again. She's been getting assistance from Oronsay in disambiguating people and connecting people. Has been considering going around the country visiting academic libraries promoting the thesis project but family committments may reduce her ability to do that. Einebillion suggested if she needed funding to support any of those outreach efforts she should apply to WANZ. She is still in discussions with Deborah, the academic library who helped organise the proejct & get it off the ground. DrThneed is intending to reply to the scholarly paper discussing Theses in Wikidata. The Editor of the journal where this was published said they'd publish a response to paper about theses if DrThneed wrote it. DrThneed needs to ensure her SPARQL queries are bullet proof.  Ambrosia10 suggested she sossibly reach out to the WikiProject LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group when it is convenient for DrThneed to present on the project.
  • 2023 March WikiCon Wellington Registration is open. Please sign up if you're looking to attend so catering numbers can be confirmed.
  • 2023 Annual Wikidata Fellowship Grant One New Zealand and two Australian fellowships available. Applications opened on 9 January and closed on Sunday 26 February 2023. WANZ President Einebillion (talk) is waiting to hear from Wikimedia Australia on selection process. Check out the Annual Wikidata Fellowship Grant fellowship grant page for more details.
  • 2023 August 16-19 Wikimania, Singapore and online The application process for scholarship to attend has closed. Applicants waiting to hear from organisers.
    • If you want to apply to present at WikiMania see this Diff publication. Session submissions for Wikimania 2023 are open until Tuesday, March 28.
  • Society for the Protection of Natural History Collections 2023 Conference - Ambrosia10 has made a rapid funding grant to the Wikimedia Foundation to attend this conference in person.
    • Ambrosia10 has been successful in obtaining the grant, has undertaken an early bird registration, booked her flights and made her hotel reservations. Still awaiting news from the organisers whether her two abstracts have been accepted for presentation and will let the community know as soon as she hears.
  • #1Lib1Ref finished on 5 February. It will repeat on 15 May - 5 June. See the #1Lib1Ref website for details.
  • Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/Workshop was held on the 4th of March and run by Pakoire.
  • Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work - is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update?
Anything to update / discuss?
  • Reminder if anyone wants to contribute to the GLAMwiki newsletter they can. You have until 7am on the 8th of March to contribute to the February newsletter. - Ambrosia10 (talk)

4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated – You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

  • Ambrosia10 has been registering for the SPNHC conference, booking flights and organising accommodation after successfully obtaining funding to attend this conference. She's yet to hear if her 2 papers have been accepted for presentation but is confident they will be. Will let the community know as soon as she hears. She has had a blog post she co-authored published about the Biodiversity Heritage Library and their roundtripping of Wikidata data. See the blog post here. Her Women Genera project, where is has been working with a group of women botanists and data scientists has been heating up with her doing a flurry of Wikidata editing linking species items to their original publications and as a result has generated a spreadsheet requesting a range of books and resources be scanned into BHL. Her Hidden Figures project, where she is working with a group of educators to produce a Univerisity undergraduate "CURE" (course baseed under graduate research experience) has also been busy. We're in the process of finalising two of the teaching modules in this CURE to present to several organisations. Also one of our group will be presenting on our work at a the 2023 Conference of the Association of South Eastern Biologists in the US. I've been attending meetings both as an invited member of the Biodiversity Heritage Library cataloguing group as well as monthly meetings between BHL, the Wikimedia Foundation and editors interested in BHL. I've been invited to present at a symposium in April for WeDigBio on my citizen science work relating to transcribing labels of natural history collections (which of course involved Wikidata, Wikipedia, Wikicommons editing and related websites such as iNaturalist and Bionomia). I've also been sounded out by the Australian Citizen Science Association on whether I would be prepared to consider key noting at the annual conference. I've said you so I'm now in the running and will hear at a later date whether the organising committee has selected me. Recently I've been creating a slide deck for my 1 hour presentation on tools, gadgets and scripts at the upcoming WellyWikiCon. I'm currently polishing this and am looking forward to the conference. Finally, I've been working on the BHL creator mix'n'match dataset & doing general "gardening" of Wikipedia articles etc.
  • Oronsay (talk) - Working on thesis project finding links and supervisors of thesis that DrThneed can use. Focusing on Massey University as they don’t have that info in their metadata. She finds it satisfying when she finds a student with 2 thesis not linked. In Wikipedia she is currently not doing much, just trying to link Women in Red folk. Gone off content curation big time at the moment but is confident it will come back. She’s doing lots of things just not as visible as content creation.
  • Beeswaxcandle - Working on Wikisource of course. Has had a bad cold and the cyclone, floods and his Gran's funeral has meant it has not been a good few weeks for him. He still managed to finish 2 books on Wikisource as well as the tables of contents up to Volume 30 for The Transactions and Proceedings of the Royal Society of New Zealand. He's also been writing a lighning talk for the Wellington WikiCon about this project and will be giving attendees links to "how to's" and also talking about different themes for the work so folk can work on what they are interested in. He also mentioned the Bound to be an Electrician book in Wikisource.
  • Jonathanischoice - Was in Napier at the Art Deco festival during the floods. Put a dampener on his editing. He's still contributing to instrument articles. He had 2 questions. First a keen enthusiastic editor is making numerous small edits to one article as a result of him editing via his phone and on a bad internet connection. This can cause difficulties for Jonathanischoice checking differences in edits etc and he was wondering whether he should do anything about it. Ambrosia10 gave her opinion that as a result of it being because of internet connection etc as well as editing on a phone there wasn't really anything that can be done . Jonathanischoice explained he had given the editor a technical workaround to save their work to attempt to encourage bigger edits but was satisfied that there isn't much else he can do. 2nd question - Wikidata - is there an easy way in Wikidata to do some quick queries to work out information he needs. Jonathanischoice admitted his SPAQL queries need improvement. DrThneed said there is a tool that will help and recommended the "three dots" tool.
  • Prosperosity (talk) - Got the West Auckland page to good article status. Group congratulated him on doing so. He's continuing to edit suburb pages and has plies of books from the Library for this purpose. He attended and helped host the Auckland Wiki meetup, a small and great last meeting. He's also keen to become more engaged with WikiProject Auckland group of editors and will try to revive or make the group more active.
  • Paora (talk) - Has been doing Wiki "gardening" and been working on the 2023 in New Zealand article updating it with recent deaths - currently there are 5 red links if folk want to contribute articles. He's also created a page for the NZ business hall of fame. Noticed plenty of business folk being inducted and wanted to link all of the articles back to the Hall of Fame page. He attended the Auckland meetup a couple of weeks ago. A small but productive turnout.
  • David Nind (talk) - he went down to Dunedin at start of February for Giantflightlessbird's NZ Species editathon. Good to see Giantflightlessbird and they had one person come along in person. He edited an article on the huhu and how it is used for food. Marshelec worked away online & they had a chat during the editathon. Other than that he's been tidying up photos to get them into Wikicommons but hasn’t added them yet. And looking forward to the conference.
  • DrThneed (talk) - Got back into the Thesis project as explained earlier. She created a wikipedia page yesterday about a trust offering new writers residency - the Casselberg trust . It is a short page but links to all the writers and the two people it’s named after. She's looking forward to being a Wikidata fellowship mentor and there are applications for NZ and she’s also looking forward to the conference. She's been in discussions with Avocadobabygirl on how to disambiguate people via Wikidata for a data project sharing tips and tricks in OpenRefine etc. Einebillion elaborated on what Avocadobabygirl is working on for Te papa. It is the Te Papa mix'n'match creators id dataset. This dataset is actually their agents and includes people who shouldn’t be included and is old and the data has been significantly improved in 6 years. Discussion happened around this project and DrThneed says Magnus will delete if asked. Einebillion explained not Te Papa’s dataset because a third party who created it but that Avocadobabygirl is currrently workig through the issues surrounding this.
  • Einebillion (talk) - very little in content creation. Participating in the regular two weekly Te Papa Staff meetup for those interested in Wikipedia, Wikidata, Wikicommson and WIkisource. Avocadobabygirl is running it and supported by User:Stitchbird2 who is a prolific editor. Staff Aask questions and talk about projects. Held every second wednesday. She's also been working on Presidential work but not as much as usual because she’s been working long hours for a lottery application for work. She does intend to get produce a letter on behalf of WANZ to MBIE on the new Copyright act and tardiness of the copyright review, how the Copyright Act needs to allow CC0 to be legally compliant. There is anxiety that it isn’t within NZ govt and wants to ensure CC0 is included in NZ govt open licence policy as an accepted licence fo data. Wants to add clarification about heritage imagesa etc as well.

5. Review of questions raised during round table

6. Further discussion

  • Web2Cit - I'm aware folk may have been exposed to this new tool but thought I'd share this great resource I've come across that explains it very throughly. See this video recording about the whole effort and how to actually install and use the tool. Ambrosia10 (talk) In response to this Oronsay said she has had difficulty contributing to the effort to clean web citations via this tool and has some of her attempts to help out reverted. She intends to look at the video and hopefully give feedback if it helps her issues. Ambrosia10 stated that, if Oronsay is having difficulty it is more likely a lack of "how to" documentation for the use of the tool rather than Oronsay and that perhaps that needs improvement from the organisers/creator of the tool?
  • David Nind demonstrated a Wikicommons gadget the Global usage badge.
  • Marshelec shared a list of the top 1000 New Zealand articles viewed annually. Discussion about how this list can focus editing efforts.
  • Jonathanischoice raised a Wikicommons cataloguing issue and two tools were suggested - HotCat and Cat-a-lot. He also discussed this phabricator ticket for allowing SVG images in Wikipedia, opened 18 years ago and still unresolved, which would allow music notation with the Score extension to use SVG.

Outcomes

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  • Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
  • Organisation time: 1 hr doing notes, 1.5 h adding info after meeting

Next meeting and meetup timetables

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  • 2 April 2023, same time, same place