User talk:Doug Weller

The current date and time is 28 September 2024 T 23:22 UTC. You can email me from this link but in the interests of Wiki-transparency, please message me on this page unless there are pressing reasons to do otherwise. Comments which I find to be uncivil, full of vulgarities, flame baiting, or that are excessively rude may be deleted without response. If I choose not to answer, that's my right; don't keep putting it back. I'll just delete and get annoyed at you.

This user talk page might be watched by friendly talk page stalkers which means that someone other than me might reply to your query. Their input is welcome and their help with messages that I cannot reply to quickly is appreciated.

home	Talk Page	Workshop	Site Map	Userboxes	Edits	Email

Coming here to ask why I reverted your edit? Read this page first...

Archives

Archive 1 Archive 2 Archive 3 Archive 4 Archive 5 Archive 6 Archive 7 Archive 8 Archive 9 Archive 10 Archive 11 Archive 12 Archive 13 Archive 14 Archive 15 Archive 16 Archive 17 Archive 18 Archive 19 Archive 20 Archive 21 Archive 22 Archive 23 Archive 24 Archive 25 Archive 26 Archive 27 Archive 28 Archive 29 Archive 30 Archive 31 Archive 32 Archive 33 Archive 34 Archive 35 Archive 36 Archive 37 Archive 38 Archive 39 Archive 40 Archive 41 Archive 42 Archive 43 Archive 44 Archive 45 Archive 46 Archive 47 Archive 48 Archive 49 Archive 50 Archive 51 Archive 52 Archive 53 Archive 54 Archive 55 Archive 56 Archive 57 Archive 58 Archive 59 Archive 60 Archive 61 Archive 62 Archive 63 Archive 64 Archive 65 Archive 66 Archive 67

This page has archives. Sections older than 6 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.

I see that you have (once again) reverted my edit on the Modern gold dinar page. The source I provided for my edit was arguably "unreliable" by set standards, however, that was the single most reliable source that was available which included a New Straits Times article that explicitly mentioned that the Kelantanese dinar is illegal, therefore I am here to argue that for that reason, an exception ought to be made. Other sources used on the Kelantanese dinar page are either permanently dead (from the same newspaper) or are from Web Archive which I can't access. Sisuvia (talk) 09:23, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments for why something which has been challenged should be included in an article need to be made on the talk page of the article to see if there is a consensus to do so. - Donald Albury 13:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So what's up now Doug ??? The entry on Lorence G. Collins has been reverted to a ridiculous stub I notice ! To me that is savage sabotage pure I'm afraid. Rudolf Pohl (talk) 15:56, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rudolf Pohl: you need to discuss this at the article's talk page. Or WP:FTN where I raised the issue. Somewhere where others can see the discussion. Doug Weller talk 15:46, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I accept your removal of the picture. Yet you should be more polite, I think. It's my opinion. --LLcentury (talk) 17:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doug,

You are doing a great job and keep up your work as like you do now.

I am just contacting you to help me review the article which is recently published by me - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_J_C_Franklin

Kindly review this article and bare with me If i did any mistakes in this. Feel free to share your insights and dont hesitate to remove any content from this article if it is not relevant or if you feel its promotional.

Looking forward to hear from you on this. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vmdinesh22 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the notice but I am already aware of the topic areas that are under DS. I certainly hope the attempts I've seen to conflate my work at the WSJ with that of climate deniers will cease. My focus is on getting the article right, not advocating for or against the inevitable. Climate changes and other areas of concern that have a political element must be presented accurately, from a NPOV, and must be cited to multiple high quality RS. Opinions should not be stated as fact in WikiVoice. I would certainly appreciate it if more administrators would support my efforts to discuss these issues on the TP of conflicted articles so that we can achieve accuracy and improve the articles. Thank you. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 15:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Atsme but I couldn't see any sign that you'd had an alert in the last 12 months. What did I miss? Doug Weller talk 16:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) No need to apologize, Doug. I was just noting to you that, as a responsible editor, I see to it that I am aware of all the topics under DS before I edit anything controversial. I realize posting the notice is part of ArbCom's maze of bureaucracy, which reminds me, if you get a chance, take a look at the following proposal over at ARCA: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Amendment request: DS Awareness and alerts - it's a time saver, if nothing else, and we have volunteers willing to do what's needed to get it done. It just needs formal approval. One last thought, you might want to note the DS on the TP of The Wall Street Journal and also in edit view for the benefit of those editors (and admins) who may not be aware. I hesitate to advise anyone on their TP because it tends to irritate (as you know) because such notices are typically posted or instigated by the opposition. Thanks! ^Atsme _Talk 📧 16:19, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) You missed the big sign at the top of the page. Bishonen | talk 16:12, 26 June 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Bishonen, Ain't that awareness-disclaimer only about APOL? Missing something? ∯WBG^converse 16:15, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I read that first. Just AP. Doug Weller talk 16:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right. I thought it was about all DS, sorry. Bishonen | talk 16:17, 26 June 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Thx, Bish - sorry for the ec - I'll add a host of others. Hopefully more admins will participate in the proposal at ARCA. ^Atsme _Talk 📧 16:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Atsme: add others? I'm confused. As you know, you either have to have a yearly alert or show that you are aware according to the criteria at WP:DS#Awareness and alerts. Of course if you meet any of those criteria for an alert you could mention it. Doug Weller talk 16:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think a TP notice is a good idea, but that discussion has stalled. The other searches are slow. A TP notice would have to have links of course, I can't remember if they were suggested. Doug Weller talk 16:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

JFG and Awilley can make this work rather quickly - we just need our arbs to make a relatively minor modification to the Alert requirements to include/recognize the TP notice at the top of a UTP, and an opt-out option that will trigger a notice that the user is already aware when anyone attempts to add an alert. Awilley can explain it better. So...should I loan my cattle prod to KrakatoaKatie so she can get things moving at the next arb meeting? ^{[FBDB] Atsme} _Talk 📧 17:36, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The editor's obstinately idiosyncratic editing practices have not substantially changed - at least in the Roman Numerals article! As one who is "not without sin" I am not suggesting any particular course of action, but this editor's actions are wasting far too much of the limited time I have to spend on Wikipedia (and I'm sure this doesn't stop with me). Wish there was something that could be done - blocking does seem to be extreme in this case, as he is plainly not a "common" vandal/edit warrior: is there any other way of bringing him to his senses? --Soundofmusicals (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to thank you for your response to my behaviour yesterday. I still feel badly, which I think is only fair. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 17:00, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Roxy the dog: I'll admit to being shocked but I've got no problem with you now. I do have a concern however when I consider the problems you've had in the past. The last thing I want is to see you end up with the same behavior that got you blocked. So do me a favor, think about how you can keep a clean block log from now on as I want to see you around! Doug Weller talk 19:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's interesting. One of the Admins who blocked me in the past has now retired, before the latest nonsense. His actions held that particular article back for three or four years, and retirement has improved the project hugely. I would argue that the pettiness of admins on all of my blocks was incredible, shrug. With the way WMF have behaved recently, I couldn't care much less if I was no longer involved here.

I think perhaps that the one thing that really concerns me is that so many of us are so very surprised at FRAMGATE. I've had an account since 2008, I had to look it up . I have always known that the WMF can do anything they want, and we volunteers have no choice but to WP:AGF that the Foundation will not involve itself where they are not welcome. I'm amazed at the "Outraged/surprised" reaction, though I understand and support it because it's a good project. Tainted now though. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 20:04, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just reverted your deletion of content from Terrence McKenna. What is going on? I am unfamiliar with these types of articles but still experienced enough to know a little conflict when I see it. I'll revert myself if my reversion is an error. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 19:20, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doug, please see the following edit summaries [1] [2] [3]. This strikes me as a pretty huge no-no. This user also appears to be fairly disruptive generally, see the following edits [4], [5], [6]. Would you be able to take some sort of action against them?--Ermenrich (talk) 23:54, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(TPW) I'm on a mobile right now, but just posted to ANI asking that someone address this. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asleep right now, but I've deleted the userpage per G10 and blocked as NOTHERE. Edit summaries need revdeling by someone who's awake. Bishonen | talk 00:35, 1 July 2019 (UTC).[reply]

I am trying to sleep but I pulled out my flamethrower and burned up as much of that nonsense as I could. He’s created a few articles. Somebody needs to go through his history and check those articles to see whether they are copyright violations or otherwise needing to be deleted. Jehochman ^Talk 01:41, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, it looks like the account may have been taken over. The earlier contributions seem lucid, while the later ones are a stream of nonsense. I am not sure what happened to this account (or user). Jehochman ^Talk 02:08, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see this happen lately. Compromise is a possibility. In some cases, there's a break, suggesting someone moved elsewhere for ideological reasons then came back (perhaps off-wiki canvassing), in some cases there are sleeping socks that were just created so enough time passes for check-user to be difficult, then reactivated... —PaleoNeonate – 02:39, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think some of the strangeness is from poor English skills. His German contributions appear a lot more cogent - he was blocked there for edit-warring and then evading the block on February 10. He appears to evince something of a bizarre hatred of Germany (both for Nazis and for Angela Merkel apparently) in both the English and German Wikipedias, but honestly it seems like he just lost it after German Wikipedia blocked him. The really weird stuff here all postdates the block there.--Ermenrich (talk) 03:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mm.srb (talk · contribs) vouches for AustrianFreedom (talk · contribs) [7] Perhaps his account was hacked prior to the February 10 block on deWiki. I asked Mm.srb to contact the account holder if he can, and see if we can get more information. Jehochman ^Talk 03:30, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

They've been banned on Serbian wikipedia too (June 25). It seems unlikely to me that there's been a hack - the user has been editing the same articles for his entire wikipedia career even before any noticeable problems started. And how likely is it that someone else who speaks Serbian, German, and English would take over an account of a user who also speaks those three languages? Their latest posts on their talk page lead me to believe they've had some sort of mental breakdown, honestly.--Ermenrich (talk) 20:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Doug, what do you think about this recent edit at Land of Punt? Is hard for me to believe that such hypothesis is backed by reliable sources. Khruner (talk) 13:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Doug - since you've been active placing DS alerts for CC, and considering I don't post alerts, especially to admins, would you please check the page history and alert those editors edit warring at Sheryl Attkisson per WP:NEWBLPBAN? They may not be aware. Thanks in advance...^Atsme _Talk 📧 15:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC) PS: the commonality here is the alert, not the topic.[reply]

There is no edit war going on there. Toa Nidhiki05 19:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I am writing to urge you to give The Secret Universe by Aerik Vondenburg on the Ancient Astronaut wiki another look. I see that you wrote in the comments that you deleted it because it was "stapled." I have a copy of the paperback in front of me and I can assure you that it is not stapled. If you go to the Barnes & Noble website https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-secret-universe-aerik-vondenburg/1130929549 you will see that the book is 576 pages long - i.e., impossible to staple. I also see that you deleted because it was self published, however, many, if not most of the books listed are self published. (e.g. David H Childress, David Icke, etc). In fact, most books that deal with "fringe" topics are being self published these days. I am asking that you please restore the listing. Thank you.